Episode 36

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Published on:

11th May 2024

What Moms Do Again and Again Matters to God + Happy Mother's Day

Happy Mother's Day! The purpose of this podcast is to encourage all of you Christian moms raising your children for the Lord... so how could we not take a little time to remind you how important all your efforts are to your Savior?! We are replaying one of our very first episodes to tell you that every little again matters! We hope you have a wonderful Mother's Day and even if it's less than a relaxing day off, may you feel deep rest in your soul because you feel seen by Him!

Transcript
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There are the joyful agains our children shout on the swings,

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the exhausting agains of dishes,

cooking, and laundry, and the

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difficult agains of discipline.

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So much of what we do

as mothers is on repeat.

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So what if we could trust

this repetition was adding up?

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What if we woke up with clarity,

knowing which agains we were called to?

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and went to bed believing we are

faithful in what matters most.

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We believe focusing on the agains in

God's word and a to be list over a to

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do list is the way to untangle from

the confusion and overwhelm we feel.

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Let's look up together to embrace a

motherhood full of freedom and joy.

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Happy mother's day.

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welcome to a special episode

of the again, podcast.

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My name is Stephanie Hickox.

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And I'm your host.

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And today I am going to

replay an episode that.

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Confirms all the, again that

you do on a daily basis.

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Our onto the Lord.

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That he is.

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Absolutely honored by your service

to your children, to your husband.

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To your family.

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And to.

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Courage us, whether our children rise up

and call us blessed tomorrow Or whether

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the day is not quite what we had hoped.

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For rest and relaxation.

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Showering and appreciation.

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That you know, That the Lord

is honored by your service.

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Let's continue to lay

our hearts at his feet.

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And serve just as our savior.

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Did.

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And before we get to our interview.

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I would encourage you

to share this episode.

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With any friends that you have

that, need to be reminded that

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all of their against matter.

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Thanks for spreading the word.

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Steph: Today I'm joined by Betsy Corning.

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The founder and director of

Entrusted Ministries and the author

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of Entrusted with a Child's Heart.

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And also today we have Jen

Freckman and Emily Deyo.

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Two amazing moms who are fully

devoted to their children.

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To the Lord and love

pouring into other moms.

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We really hope that

you'll be blessed today.

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As you're reminded that every sacrifice

you make in your home as you serve

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your family matters to the Lord.

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Charles Spurgeon.

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The infamous pastor said you are as

much serving God in looking after your

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own children and training them up in

God's fear and minding the house and

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making your household a church for God.

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As you would be if you had

been called to lead an army to

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battle for the Lord of hosts.

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We hope you believe that by the end

of this episode and make sure you

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listen to the end for a good laugh.

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Jen.

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I know you have such a heart to

minister, to moms and to make sure that

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they know that the Lord is delighted

in their faithfulness in the home.

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But this idea is so

counter-cultural right now.

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So I'm wondering how do you see that

women need to be encouraged in this area?

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Jen: For sure.

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I think that in today's world, stay

at home moms might feel a little

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unseen and living anonymously in

their homes with their children.

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I think even sometimes pastors

are neglecting to encourage that

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stay at home mom role almost outta

fear of offending the working mom.

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And I think that they've kind of

lost sight a little bit of that.

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High and holy calling and how

sometimes it can feel lonely and it

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can feel like day in and day out.

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You're doing this work as unto

the Lord and no one notices.

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And so knowing that we

serve a God who sees matters

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I'm reminded about a book

that I read once by JC Ryle.

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It's in his book, holiness, and it

says, holiness is the habit of being

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of one Mind with God, the habit of

agreeing in God's judgment, hating what

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he hates, and loving what he loves.

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And measuring everything in this

world by the standard of his word.

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And in his word, he talks

about how us moms are to be

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the one at home busy at home.

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And so working at home, day

in, day out, caring for those

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children's needs, it matters to him.

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And it's a high and a holy calling.

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And I don't think that it's a lesser than.

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I think that it's

something that God desires.

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He knew what he was doing

when he put families together.

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He could have placed us down

in this earth without a family.

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But he didn't.

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He gave us a mom and a dad and a

role for each of them, and he did

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that for a reason, knowing that

they can help us to disciple.

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Us into who we're supposed

to be in the Lord.

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And that's the role of a parent is to

disciple, is to bring that child up into

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the fear and admonition of the Lord and

to Cultivate in them a heart for the Lord

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and to teach him and her, the, the value

of his word and what his word says and how

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to be a good human, how to be less of a

sinner and to work through those things.

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And it's a high and holy calling.

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In Isaiah 40 11, it

says, the Lord helps us.

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He will tend to flock like a shepherd.

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He will gather the lambs in his arms

and he will carry them in his bosom and

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gently lead those who are with young.

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And that's, that's US moms.

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He's gently leading us.

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It's not something that

we can do on our own.

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But we often need that encouragement

that we're not doing it alone.

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Betsy: moms get caught up in the

mundane and they think that nobody

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understands how they're feeling,

that they're alone in the world.

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Probably because there's not

a lot of adults around them

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when they're doing this.

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Magnificent work as unto the

Lord with their small children.

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But I think all of those seemingly

trivial, mundane things are so

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substantial, they're so building into

the child knowing that you are there,

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that you're a security for them, that

you provide for them, you know, we

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talk in Entrusted so many ways about

how your touch is significant in the

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life

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of a child.

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and they really long for it.

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That little child that sees you come

to the nursery to pick them up, you're

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the one, you are the one, no other

mother's gonna do it that point.

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And it's just a really precious thing.

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And I think that it's

just kind of being lost.

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Mothers feel that what they're

doing isn't necessarily so

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significant, but we know that it is.

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The Bible tells us that it is.

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So a verse that's so difficult

to understand is First

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Timothy two, and it is verse.

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13 and 14.

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I will just read it here first.

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For it was Adam who was first created

and then Eve, and it was not Adam

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who was deceived, but the woman being

deceived fell into transgression.

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But women will be preserved through

the bearing of children if they

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continue in faith, in love, and.

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Sanctity was self-restraint.

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Well, that's a whopper.

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This is definitely one of

those verses that you say what

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Steph: Okay.

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I'm excited to

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Emily: hear I

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Jen: me too.

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Betsy: It's something

that women struggle with.

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They might not necessarily

understand, well, we know that

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that doesn't refer to salvation.

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It's that the dignity of womanhood

is being lifted up it is saying

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that the woman's dignity is

preserved through the bearing of her

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children and that she is elevated

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From the very b eginning, she

was the first to be deceived.

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The Lord is saying, I will elevate

you in the preserving and the bearing

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of children, and also in the way that

you bring them up in faith and love

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and sanctity with self-restraint.

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So, It's a really precious promise

of the Lord that we don't have to

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think of women in one particular way.

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God has redeemed the view of women.

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It just doesn't seem to be a really

apparent in our culture though, does It

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It seems.

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That women have to be

highlighted, celebrated in

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a, you know, self celebrated.

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I'm not saying that we don't

celebrate women, right?

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We certainly do.

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We celebrate motherhood.

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We celebrate daughters, we

celebrate all of these things,

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but there's such a way that it's.

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Self elevation, self-promotion, that we

have a difficulty not being celebrated.

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In fact, that's what the

word celebrity comes from.

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You know, a person that is

celebrated and I feel like I

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can be celebrated by my family.

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I can be celebrated by the Lord.

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What I think of as, I think of Jesus

and Jen, you made me think of this

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thought, that when Jesus came to

earth, he didn't come to be celebrated.

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He came incognito and I really

meditate on that sometimes,

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that he did what he came to do.

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He did what the father called him to do.

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He's surrendered his will.

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He came humbly and he did this.

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Now, that's the first coming of Jesus.

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We know the second coming

will be quite different.

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The whole world will know.

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Imagine when he came the first time

and he, he did so many things for

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people and they just didn't see it.

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That will not be the case the second time.

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The first time he came incognito,

and sometimes we feel that way as

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mothers, but what we can identify

with Christ and our service unto him

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doesn't have to be seen by everybody.

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It will be recognized by the Lord also.

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Jen: Oh, for sure.

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I think that that is so sanctifying

for us as moms though, because we,

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we see in our hearts that desire to

get that promotion or to get that

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praise or to have that Mother or

mother-in-law say to you, well done.

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Good job.

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You're doing good with that.

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And when we don't get that and we

have children who are running around

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being their sinful little selves and

we're dealing with that day in and day

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out, and we feel our selves and our

hearts being faithful and not seeing

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the fruit, we don't see it right away.

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We won't see it for oftentimes, it maybe

even we won't see it on this earth.

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But that we are doing this as

a service as unto the Lord, and

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this is our holy and high calling.

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I'm reminded of a quote in the book by

j r Miller called Secrets of Happy Home

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Life, and it says, A mother is one of

the holiest secrets of home happiness.

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God sends many beautiful blessings in

this world, but no blessing is richer

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than that which he bestows in a mother.

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Who has learned loves less and well,

and has realized something of the

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meaning of her sacred and high calling.

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When we moms understand that this

is not just babysitting children,

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but we are actually involved in the

spiritual and developmental wellbeing

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of our children's souls, that puts

a whole new perspective on being a

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mom and

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a stay at home mom.

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Mm-hmm.

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I know with our family, we

decided to homeschool because.

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It gave so many more

opportunities for discipleship.

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So many more, so much more time, as in

Deuteronomy six, about when you sit in

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your house, when you walk, by the way,

when you rise up and all those things.

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It was like, oh, we'd have so much

more time doing that if they were

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home with us all the the time.

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And so being able to do that.

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It helps you to see that

this is a holy calling.

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This is not just sending them

off somewhere where someone can

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take care of their wellbeing.

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One of my favorite verses

is second Corinthians:

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I will most gladly spend and be

spent for the sake of your souls.

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That's why we do this for

the sake of their souls.

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I wanna spend myself, I wanna be

spent at the end of the night.

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I wanna go to bed exhausted.

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Not because I cleaned the house well,

or whatever work on this earth well,

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but because of the sake of their souls,

I was redirecting their affections

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towards the Lord day in, day out.

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I wanna be exhausted in that.

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Betsy: I agree.

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That's

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awesome.

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Steph: Mm-hmm.

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I think in our culture where there's

so much instant gratification, it's

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very hard to not be tempted by that.

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My mentor in college had a two year old

and then a baby, and her husband was the

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campus minister's and she needed to step

back as she was raising her children.

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And so she put a picture of

a cathedral in her kitchen.

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Just to remind her that

I'm building something.

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I'm building something that I

might never see, just like the

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builders of the cathedrals.

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And I thought that was so neat that

she had it so prominently placed in her

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home as that constant reminder, even

as she turned the stairs to go change

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every diaper, she knew this all counts.

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Jen: I love that there's a

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quote by J r R Tolkien that says,

my own dear mother was a martyr.

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Indeed, and it is not to everybody

that God grants so easy away to his

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great gifts, as he did to Hillary

and myself, giving us a mother who

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killed herself with labor and trouble

to ensure us keeping the faith.

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Steph: Absolutely.

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And though we know that there's

no prescription for this, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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Every child will someday make a decision.

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But what a joy to be able to look back and

know that we laid it all out there, right?

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That we left

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it all on the

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field,

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that we left nothing unsaid that we wanted

to say that we took every opportunity

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Betsy: That's even why we call the

Ministry Entrusted Ministries because

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it

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means

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held for safekeeping and we

are stewards of those children.

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They don't really truly belong to us.

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It says in Ezekiel, all souls

belong to God, and in that little

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shape of the little body that we

get presented when they're born.

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Such a wonderful.

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Awesome moment in life, and then

we get to train them up to love the

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Lord and give their lives to him.

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It's a stewardship.

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It's

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like we are really raising

them on his behalf.

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Well, how would

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the

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king want his children

to be raised and his

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behalf?

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Mm-hmm.

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It's such a wonderful responsibility,

but it gives you a, a joy in doing it

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like the Lord, you're with me in this.

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You see me

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when I

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stick

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my head in the dryer.

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And you know what?

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You know what I like about doing laundry

is because my thoughts get to be my own.

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I look

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at

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my

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husband

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and he has to go to work and he has

to talk to people about all these

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different things and different

clients and different numbers and

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all this, and I think, you know what?

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I get to think about the Lord.

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I get to think about a Bible verse.

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I get to.

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Really concentrate and

dwell on what's holy, right.

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Pure, perfect.

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Yes.

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And what I'm dealing with

and what I'm making for lunch

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and all that for the kids.

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But it's more your own thoughts that

you get and you get to bring your

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thoughts captive to the things of the

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Emily: Mm-hmm.

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Steph: Emily.

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I know we've talked a little

bit about homeschool here.

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But I truly respect you for how

intentional you are with your children.

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When they're home, you really know their

needs and you're available to meet them.

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And we're not trying to paint

a one size fits all here.

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We don't think homeschooling is

the only way for discipleship.

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We think that the lord calls us to

many things and so can you speak

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to that a little bit about what

it looks like in your home for you

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to be faithful in your parenting

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Emily: it looks like being very

intentional for us, as Jen was

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reading the quotes about being holy.

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They're so sweet, and I think as a

young mom, that word really scared me.

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Being holy is something so unattainable

and it's left for the Lord only, but.

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But as I've grown in the Lord in

sanctification, he has shown me that

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holy doesn't have to be hard and

it doesn't have to be unattainable.

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It's something that we're daily

striving towards in our homes for him.

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And I was also thinking as we pour

into our children, our girls are

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watching and as we model this, so will

they also model for their children.

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So being intentional in our home

and pouring into our kids it matters

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every moment that we're folding the

laundry, doing the dishes it all

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counts and the Lord will sanctify

it and make it good for his glory.

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Jen: And that's funny that you

said that you often felt like you

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could think through your thoughts.

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There are so many times in the day where

I am like, I just want to think my own

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thoughts.

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I'm thinking so much for you.

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There's a quote by Sophia Loren that

says, when you're a mother, you are

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never really alone in your thoughts.

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A mother always

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has

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to think twice, once for

herself and once for her child.

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so I feel like at times I.

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But that's why I think it's so important

that as moms we get away to have a quiet

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time of our own, that we put a high and

holy priority on spending time alone

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with the Lord to be able to hear

those thoughts, to be able to stop

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and think and be like, what are

you speaking to me about, Lord,

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how can I train up this child?

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What is it in my own life that you.

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See that is not bringing you glory.

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And so being in the word every

single day and hearing what he

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has for that day, for that moment,

for me, has been so important.

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Because I feel like sometimes those

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thoughts, I'm

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like,

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I don't

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even

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know

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what

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Betsy: I

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Yes.

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my husband says

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the

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world

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will

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give you its thoughts

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constantly.

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Yeah.

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And so we have to get alone like Jesus

did and have our thoughts be his thoughts.

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So maybe that's why I stuck my head in the

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dryer

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Because there is no place in

the house you can go where

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they can't, try and

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find

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you.

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And especially when you think you're gonna

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Emily: mm-hmm.

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run

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to

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the

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Betsy: restroom for.

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10 seconds.

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Emily: Yes.

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Betsy: Mom.

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Steph: I know.

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I think it's so funny when in Entrusted

when you talk about the best 15 minutes

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of the day, my kids, all four of them.

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It's the moment I need alone.

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That's

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Emily: Yes.

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They best

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Steph: of minutes.

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Huh?

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Mom's not here right now.

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I think I'll find her.

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Betsy: Yes.

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Emily: Yes.

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I do think it's so hard, it's

actually quite impossible to

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pour from an empty vessel.

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And so when we're not taking

time away we can't pour what

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we need to in our children.

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And so whatever that means for you.

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You're of course, your devotion time

and your bible time, but also, you

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know, what books are you reading?

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What podcasts are you listening to?

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What friends are you listening

as they pour into you?

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Who surrounds you?

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Who are your children's friend?

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It all matters And all

of that disciples us.

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Our calendars disciple us because what

we make time for is what we grow in.

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So it all matters.

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Jen: Hmm.

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Steph: Absolutely.

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And I'm sure that there are

some moms out there saying, I.

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I'm called to work or, or

I am working right now.

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And, and we obviously would leave

that up to you and the Lord,

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whether that's really something the

Lord's put on your heart or whether

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that's a choice that you've chosen.

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And so we trust you to work

that out in your own home.

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I know for me personally part of

me being faithful to my family

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and to the Lord is to take on

part of a provider role right now.

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My children are getting a little bit older

and I continue to homeschool them so that

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the discipleship role is still a key area

that I'm involved in, in their lives.

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But I think when we really let the

Lord order our days, it's amazing how

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our to-do list becomes his to-do list.

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And you can start out being so overwhelmed

and thinking, how can I pour into my

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children when I have this much to-do?

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But if we're really doing what the

Lord's called us to, I think it's

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amazing how he provides teachable

moments, those silver platter moments,

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and you can really have their heart,

regardless of your circumstance, because

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you know that whatever the Lord has

called you to, he will provide for

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what's truly important and on his heart.

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So if you're listening and

you're thinking, oh, that's not

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quite my situation right now.

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We just would ask you to prayerfully seek

the Lord about how to order your days.

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I love in Psalms that it says, teach

us to number our days, so we may gain

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a heart of wisdom, and I really believe

that's available to each one of us.

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Regardless of the situation.

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God is so faithful to meet us where we're

at, and to help us invest in our children.

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Emily: I'd to jump in and go

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back to a thought

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that we mentioned earlier.

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Stephanie and about their

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choice for homeschool

and discipleship and,

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Whatever route you choose

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to educate your child, you need to always

understand that education is discipleship.

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They're, they're in the

institution, whether

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it's

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at

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home or at school and

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they are being taught and discipled.

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Whatever is

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being.

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Put into them daily

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so you

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don't surrender discipleship

to the school that they go to.

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Whatever your school choice is.

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We do have our children in a

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Christian school,

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and a phenomenal school.

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We love,

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we love it.

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However, we aren't

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leaving the discipleship at the door of.

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The Christian institution,

we're bringing it home

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and we're asking

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them what they're school and what

they're being taught, curriculum asking

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them to explain it in their own words

so that we can talk through that.

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Whatever they're learning, we

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can talk through it

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together.

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My daughter

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came home

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one day and she said,

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mom, we're studying the book

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of Revelation

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and it

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says in Revelation

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that we just be in We be worshiping

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All day

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long.

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incredible opportunity

then to just talk about it.

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we

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often

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miss

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the

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discipleship moments

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because

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we're too busy going to the

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Jen: doing

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Emily: laundry and putting the meal on,

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on the stove.

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the opportunities

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for

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discipleship us.

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But I

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have loved this thought that education

is discipleship and that we choose

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what poured our children daily.

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Jen: Yeah, that's a great word.

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Steph: And it's neat to see

how the Lord makes disciples.

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He's so faithful to take

children from every path, right?

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And I'm sure sitting at this table,

we've all had different experiences and

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it's neat to see the faithfulness of

God as you look back over your life.

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He certainly calls us to

many different things.

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In Colossians 3 23, it says,

whatever you do, work heartily

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as for the Lord and not for men.

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Knowing that from the Lord, you'll

receive the inheritance as your reward.

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You are serving the Lord Christ.

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what an honor we have.

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To really serve our Lord with

each, apple, you cut each shoe

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you tie each diaper, you change.

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We have so many opportunities

to show the Lord honor.

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studying in First John and how many times

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we are commanded to love one another, love

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one another, Like, Lord, am I loving you?

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Not if I'm not loving others.

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That it's so frequently says to

love others because by loving

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others, we are loving God.

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commands us to love god

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so we know that that is the

greatest commandment to love God.

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old Testament and that Jesus,

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again, quoted it in the gospels.

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But it was really amazed by the fact

that that command is not repeated very

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much after we have Christ's example.

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see the love of Jesus, And display

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on the cross and how he loved on this

earth we don't have to be commanded

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to do it as much because it's such

a delight and honor to serve the

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savior who went before us by serving

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And I think if, His service and his

selflessness continues to be our

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model for how we serve our children.

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We will overflow with that

delight in it instead of.

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This hunger for affirmation in it.

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We won't be looking at our children

as walking progress reports.

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Mm-hmm.

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Please tell me, am I doing a good job?

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Okay.

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Maybe I'll feel good about it

when they graduate high school.

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Maybe I'll feel good about it when, you

know, they start to read or ride a bike

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then I'll feel good about what I've done.

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That's not what we're to do.

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We can go to sleep knowing

we've done our best.

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And I'm talking to myself

right now just so you know.

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We can go to sleep knowing that we laid it

all out there and trusting the Lord that

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we're faithful to do our part, but , he's

faithful, to do so much more with it.

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And so we don't need to be

looking to our children either

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to, to give us that affirmation.

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So,

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Jen: Yeah, for sure.

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And I think even, it's interesting

cuz you were talking about love

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and and loving others and he asked

the question, do you love me?

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Well then feed my Sheep, tend my lambs

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the way that we can show him we

love him is by bringing up that

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next generation and tending to his

flack and tending to them and loving

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them and showing others the love.

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I think that was beautiful.

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Steph: We hope that you feel valued

encouraged and renewed that your

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sacrifices and your service in your home.

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Truly matter to the Lord.

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This is just part one.

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Of the pep talk next week, we're

going to return and we're going to dig

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into a couple passages of scripture.

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That show just how much are against matter

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and just in case we came across

a little bit too serious today.

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We've put one of our favorite outtakes.

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From recording at the end of the episode.

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Enjoy

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We know you're busy, Mama, so

we are truly grateful you joined

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us for this episode of Again.

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If you're looking for more information

about building your home on the

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foundation of Jesus Christ, head to www.

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EntrustedMinistries.

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moms, Entrusted with a Child's Heart.

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This scripture saturated study

has blessed families around the

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world, and we want it for you, too.

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Before you go, I want to pray

this benediction over you

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from 2 Thessalonians 1, 11 12.

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We're rooting for you.

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To this end, we always pray for you,

that our God may make you worthy of His

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calling, and may fulfill every resolve

for good, and every work of faith by

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His power, so that the name of our Lord

Jesus may be glorified in you, and you in

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Him, according to the grace of our God.

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And the Lord Jesus Christ.

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Amen.

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Until we meet again.

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All right, Emily, what

is your drink of choice?

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Coffee, tea, or something else?

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Well, coffee in the morning

because it's very necessary.

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And I find myself drinking

tea more in the winter.

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So I guess I'm a seasonal drinker.

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Biblical Motherhood Untangled
So much of what we do as mothers is on repeat. Join us to redeem this repetition and untangle from the confusion and overwhelm of parenting. We'll follow the Agains in the Bible to focus on the things that matter most. Let's look up together to embrace a motherhood full of freedom and joy! This podcast is sponsored by Entrusted Ministries.

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Stephanie Hickox

Stephanie has always delighted in God’s Word and in sharing it with others. Whether it is equipping mothers and leaders through Entrusted with a Child’s Heart, inspiring students when teaching at homeschool co-ops or children’s ministry, or homeschooling her own children, Stephanie’s life mission is to encourage others to follow faithfully and joyfully after Jesus—especially if they hold her favorite job title: mom.

Betsy Corning wrote Entrusted with a Child’s Heart in 1999 in response to the needs she saw in families as she and David counseled young parents just a few years behind them. Entrusted has been taught in hundreds of churches nationwide, been translated into several foreign languages, and has made its way around the world. More recently, Betsy received her Masters in Biblical Studies from The Master’s University and is developing a new Bible Study program called Get the Word Out. Her passion for God’s Word, discipleship, and teaching biblical principles as they apply to family life has remained strong to this day. One of the greatest blessings in Betsy’s life are her three grown children, their spouses, and ten grandchildren that keep her constantly in touch with every age and stage.

Jen Freckman Is an incredible wealth of wisdom. She will tell you a natural remedy for just about anything! She is also a voracious reader and she is just overflowing with quotes and guidance that she's encountered through reading and being faithful. She delights in her children and is a devoted mother. She is also an amazingly creative problem solver! Her solutions to manage her home and guide her children are inspiring.

Emily Deyo is such a treasure. She is an incredible encourager and servant-hearted woman. When she has the mic in front of her, so much value comes out! She is a wordsmith and her heart consistently beats for how she can encourage and serve others. She is a truly loving and attentive mother.

Join Betsy, Emily, Jen, and Stephanie as they share the wisdom only Scripture and on-the-job training can provide to help untangle the joyful calling of motherhood.