#55. Gentle Parenting, Grace-Based Parenting, and Discipline: Part 3 | Where Can We Look For Unchanging Truth?
In a world in which research is constantly changing and new discoveries are being made, where can parents turn for truth?
Scriptures Referenced:
John 6
Proverbs 30:6
Ecclesiastes 3:14
Revelation 22
Transcript
They're the joyful agains our children shout on the swings, the
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:exhausting agains of cooking and laundry,
and the difficult agains of discipline.
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:So much of what we do
as mothers is on repeat.
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:So what if we woke up with clarity,
knowing which agains we were called
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:to, and went to bed believing we
are faithful in what matters most?
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:We believe God's Word is
the key to untangle from the
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:confusion and overwhelm we feel.
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:Let's look up together to embrace a
motherhood full of freedom and joy.
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:Hey mama.
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:Welcome back to the again, podcast where
we wholeheartedly believe that the things
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:you do over and over matter to God.
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:I'm your host, Stephanie Hickox.
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:And this is brought to you
by entrusted ministries.
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:Today, we're beginning
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:part three of this
gentle parenting series.
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:Stephanie: You can't go far and
studying parenting these days with out
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:coming across this prevalent theory.
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:And if we believe that the things
you do over and over matter to God.
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:Then there are some key topics in
parenting that we better make sure
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:that we are on the same page about.
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:And the only page we want to be
on are the pages of scripture.
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:In this series, we'll discuss the
origins of the gentle parenting movement.
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:We're also going to define our terms.
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:We hear a lot about gray spaced.
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:Fear-based.
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:Gentleness.
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:Discipline.
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:What does it all mean?
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:And what does God's word
really say about it?
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:We're going to talk about why
some books written by believers
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:on the topic of discipline are
actually not true to scripture.
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:We're also going to clarify Entrusted's
position on grace and discipline.
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:And make sure that you know
exactly where we stand.
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:Let's get to that interview
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:Betsy: talk a little bit about,
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:sometimes in Christian
circles that might be
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:we hear the fear-based or grace and it
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:Fear-based think, oh, that's where that's
not we talking about the fear of God?
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:should have the So we
define And around there that
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:Another one is on the opposite
side of the spectrum, the
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:opposite side of the spectrum,
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:And, but grace
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:that we discipline, but atmosphere
of And that God would parent us.
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:that God
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:causes and suffering in His own children.
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:we are not we are, expect it.
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:And so how do we respond But
there is a certain amount
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:understanding that comes with
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:that
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:does
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:discipline, for consequences.
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:Just as in Entrusted we find are
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:with ours.
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:But
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:see us
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:But we're not.
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:That would
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:just build on that
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:the starting
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:Stephanie: and I think if you really
listen to a whole lesson, any of your
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:lessons, I always walk away with.
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:Wow.
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:The Lord calls me to such a
tenderness for my children.
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:And, to be such a model of his love
to them and you literally say that in
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:that only 1 percent of our time can
be spent, being involved with this.
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:And when we've trained our
children to stay in the circle,
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:this is where blessings are.
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:So little of your time really
has to go towards that.
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:So it would be, I really feel that
wouldn't be reflective at all of entrusted
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:if they took, That one percent of time.
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:Betsy: I think that's the
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:we said or why
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:designed young
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:12 year olds I
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:friend whose relative wrote
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:the book called
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:I mean, so
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:it goes to make sense that effective or,
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:what, But in a young child,
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:But let's go back to grace
parenting grace based
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:as
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:the terminology
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:is used
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:now, there isn't, I don't think there
would be anything where we would Have any
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:parting of the ways in their thinking and
I would say the same along the lines of
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:the teaching of Ted Tripp and why is that
because we're taking it from the bible.
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:We're not inventing anything
new But we're basing it on the
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:teaching of the scriptures,
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:They may be reshaped from each
generation a little bit, but heaven
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:forbid if we're actually creating
something new because it says we don't
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:add to the Bible, we don't delete.
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:We're probably just
renaming certain things or.
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:Or that's how it should
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:be.
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:But certainly very gifted writers
can offer insight into what
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:the teaching of the word is.
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:And we're so grateful for them.
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:Yeah.
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:Thank you.
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:hopefully.
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:Yes,
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:always checking.
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:Now I'm
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:just going to give an example,
a little bit to make this point.
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:In the Bible, in John 6, 52 and 69,
Jesus was talking to some Jewish leaders.
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:And this whole concept came up of Jesus
saying first of all, someone asked
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:him, how can you get, how can you say
that you give this man flesh to eat
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:when he was talking about his own self?
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:So that really, Caught struck
a chord with them and they were
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:saying to Jesus how can you say that
you'll give them your flesh to eat?
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:And he said, Truly, truly I say to
you, unless you eat the flesh of
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:the son of man and drink his blood,
you have no life in yourselves.
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:He who eats my flesh and drinks
my blood has eternal life and I
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:will raise him up on the last day.
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:For my flesh is true food
and my blood is true drink.
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:He who eats my flesh and drinks My blood
abides in me and I in him and as the
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:living father sent me and I live Because
of the father so he who eats me shall also
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:live because of me now the verse 58 so
So this is definitely very troublesome to
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:them This is the bread that came down from
heaven not as the fathers who ate and died
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:He
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:who eats this bread will live forever.
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:These things he said in the sin
synagogue as he taught in Capernaum.
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:Therefore, many of the disciples when they
heard them, said, and this is the key,
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:this
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:is a difficult
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:statement.
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:Who can listen to it?
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:But Jesus said, conscious that his
disciples were grumbling at this, said
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:to them, does this cause you to stumble?
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:What then, if you see the Son of Man
ascending to where he was before?
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:It is the Spirit who gives
life, the flesh profits nothing.
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:The words that I have spoken
to you are spirit and life.
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:He's not saying you're
going to physically eat me.
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:But
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:there are some things who, there
are some of you who do not believe.
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:For Jesus knew from the beginning
who they were and who did not believe
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:and who it was that would betray him.
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:And he was saying.
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:For this reason I have said to you
that no one can come to me unless it's
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:been granted to him from the Father.
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:As a result of this, many people
pull away from him because
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:this is a difficult saying.
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:I'm pulling away from this
because I just can't accept what
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:the Word is telling me here.
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:So Jesus said to the twelve
do you want to go away also?
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:And Simon Peter said to him, Lord,
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:to
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:whom will we go?
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:You
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:have the words of eternal life.
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:We have
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:believed and have come to know
that you are the Holy One of God.
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:Teaching biblical
discipline is a hard saying.
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:It's
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:a difficult saying to many and they
fall away because they do not have
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:true faith in the truth of God's Word.
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:one more little thing here.
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:There's a Marxist journalist that
lived from:
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:name was Hitchens, and so you've
probably heard of Hitchens Razor.
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:It means what can be freely
asserted can be freely denied.
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:What can be asserted without evidence can
be denied without evidence of its falsity.
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:The burden of proof lies in
the one making the claim.
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:Always know your sources.
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:What that's saying is somebody
out there can make a claim, but if
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:it's not backed up with evidence,
then you can freely dismiss it.
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:But when you
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:have the evidence behind
it, it cannot be dismissed.
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:The burden of proof lies with
the one making the claim.
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:So if somebody says, uh,
discipline is harmful to the child.
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:The burden of proof lies
with them to prove that.
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:And it's interesting to me because I've
been looking at some articles and research
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:over the many years, probably 50 years,
and I see that the things change and then
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:an article something will come out and
says it's not harmful to children at all.
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:And somebody will say it decreases
their intelligence and back and forth
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:on the regular cultural pendulum.
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:So I think we're making this point
that it's dangerous to swing with the
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:pendulum of society and not really anchor
yourself in the absolute truth of God's
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:word.
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:Maybe it's their rebellion to submit
to the authority of God's Word
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:Which is more and more so the case
than ever before in history in our
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:country, which is a sad statement
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:Yeah, not to be picking and choosing.
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:We don't get to pick and choose.
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:And that all, that's the
same sort of saying or same
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:sort of way of saying, adding
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:and deleting.
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:We don't, I had somebody say to
me one time I would love to take
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:entrusted, but I don't want to.
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:Can I just skip the classes on discipline?
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:Well, Why?
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:Why don't you want the whole counsel
of God weighing into, the teaching?
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:I'm not making this up
and this isn't my opinion.
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:I'm teaching what the Bible
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:is saying.
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:And
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:you have to struggle with that.
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:It says work out your own
salvation with fear and trembling.
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:I think there needs to be a little
bit more fear and trembling before
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:disobeying or rebelling against a holy
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:God.
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:Stephanie: I shared with you an example
of when I got married and my husband
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:had some food allergies and allergies
to nuts, and I thought now I'm pregnant
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:and I'm going to really research,
how do you prevent food allergies?
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:And I read a lot about it and I
was so careful and I followed it to
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:a T and it worked with my oldest.
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:He doesn't have any food allergies
and it worked with my second.
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:He doesn't have any.
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:And then with my third, I did the
same thing, and all of a sudden, on
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:his first birthday, he's reacting
to the birthday cake horribly.
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:And so then we go in and we have him
tested, and he's allergic to 15 things.
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:And, everything.
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:And it's not just a minor allergy.
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:These are anaphylactic, severe
allergies, and I'm doing all the things.
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:And eventually I said to the
allergist I don't understand.
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:I did everything I was told.
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:And she said, the pendulum has swung.
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:And just meaning that, oh we
used to say delay introduction.
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:Now we're saying introduce it early.
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:And in another time she said to
me, we just don't know that much.
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:But I had felt like she was making me
feel bad for doing the wrong thing.
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:And.
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:It's just I share that
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:Betsy: trying so hard to do the
right thing of what they told you.
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:Stephanie: So I just share that as an
example of sometimes something seems so
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:research based and We can't trust it.
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:We've seen this over and over and
you shared the example of how
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:do we even put a baby to sleep?
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:It's gone back and forth We have
to trust in something much more
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:transcendent than these cultural,
these studies or deceptions.
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:Betsy: Anything that's arbitrary and
it flops back and forth every 50 years
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:or so according to culture is Not is
transient and you really can't rely on it.
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:It's temporal as the Bible says
so we want to put our You know our
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:effort our whole hearts our love for
the Lord everything that's eternal
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:everything that will be long lasting
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:Stephanie: Yeah.
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:So, I think that would
really be our encouragement.
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:I loved watching Reading Rainbow when
I was growing up and LeVar Burton would
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:always say, but you don't have to take
my word for it after he, recommended a
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:book, we, we want to be a voice of wisdom
and we hope that you learn to trust us.
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:As Ambezi said, she has so many years
of studying the scripture and this,
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:this degree but at the end, we are all
going to be responsible before the Lord.
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:Again, we want you to trust us.
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:We hope that you find us trustworthy
and that your own study of scripture
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:is confirmed by what you hear
here, but we would never want
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:to be a replacement for that.
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:You are entrusted by God to care for these
children and you need to parent in a way.
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:that you feel confident about biblically,
but we would just encourage you to
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:not find those answers in a book, but
to find them from the Word of God.
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:We do
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:have a resource on our website.
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:If you would like to go to
the homepage, you can sign up.
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:You can watch this entire lesson 10
that talks about the full circle.
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:And the full circle is
really a beautiful picture of
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:restorative biblical discipline.
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:And it really reflects the gospel
and how the Lord disciplines us.
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:So that resource is available.
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:And it also talks about, as a
mother, things that we need to put
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:off and put on, which speaks to the
gentleness so much that we spoke of,
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:that we want to be representing as
mothers who are walking biblically.
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:You can watch that hour long
lesson and see the notebook notes
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:there and get that printable.
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:If you're like, oh man, this, I can't
remember, really remember this process.
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:How does this work?
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:I'm going to print it out and I'm going
to put it in a spot where I love to
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:have those heart talks with my kids.
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:Betsy: I think the Proverbs
teaches that the opposite of
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:discipline is really neglect.
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:And that's what's happening
without parents realizing it.
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:So they're neglecting to teach,
to train, to restrict, to
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:To
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:edify, to train their children in
a way that they can exist in the
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:world without being just bowled over.
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:Especially in a world that's
despising Christianity more and more.
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:And they're gonna need to, gonna have
to be really solid on how they can
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:stand for truth in a world like that.
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:But
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:so
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:I think that's an important point.
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:Stephanie: And Betsy, you talked about
and I forget the word out that you always
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:have a theme as you're going through
scripture and what a great opportunity
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:if people chose to read through the
Bible, and I'm just going to dig in
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:even for a whole year, I'm going to
really look at how does the Lord parent
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:us, how does he discipline his people?
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:How does he discipline those who
haven't even submitted their lives to
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:You could study so much about this.
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:And if you are longing for peace on
this area, that would really bring
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:a lot of clarity to find that you
just dug in for the year and got
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:your answers right from scripture.
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:Betsy: Yeah, and I really would
like to end on this verse.
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:It's from Proverbs 36.
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:It says, Do not add to his
words, or he will reprove you,
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:and you will be found a liar.
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:And from Ecclesiastes 3.
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:14, it says, I know that everything
God does will remain forever.
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:I know that everything God
does will remain forever.
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:There is nothing to add to it.
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:And there is nothing to take
away from it, for God has so
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:worked that men should fear him.
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:And going along the same lines
as not adding or taking away from
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:the scriptures, Revelations 22, I
testify to everyone who hears the
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:words, of the prophecy of this book.
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:If anyone adds to them, God
will add to him the plagues,
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:which are written in this book.
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:And if anyone takes away from the
words of the book of this prophecy,
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:God will take away his part from
the tree of life and from the holy
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:city, which are written in this book.
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:So we cannot change the truth
and we shouldn't attempt to it,
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:but society and the church as
we said are succumbing to this.
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:So don't allow syncretism to infiltrate
your thinking and the way that you
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:parent and manage your children.
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:Stephanie: We know you're busy,
Mama, so we are truly grateful you
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:joined us for this episode of Again.
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:If you're looking for more information
about building your home on the
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:foundation of Jesus Christ, head to www.
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:EntrustedMinistries.
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:This scripture saturated study
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:world, and we want it for you, too.
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:Before you go, I want to pray
this benediction over you
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:from 2 Thessalonians 1, 11 12.
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:We're rooting for you.
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:To this end, we always pray for you,
that our God may make you worthy of His
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:calling, and may fulfill every resolve
for good and every work of faith by
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:His power, so that the name of our Lord
Jesus may be glorified in you, and you in
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:Him, according to the grace of our God.
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:And the Lord Jesus Christ.
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:Amen.
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:Until we meet again.