#62. Our New Favorite Advent Resource: "Manger in Danger" Creator GraceAnna Castleberry Tells Us All About Her New Family Devotional
In this engaging conversation, Stephanie and GraceAnna discuss the importance of keeping Christ at the center of family life, especially during the Christmas season. They explore family traditions, the inspiration behind the Advent devotional 'Manger in Danger', and the significance of teaching children about spiritual battles and trials in our faith. GraceAnna shares practical tips for family devotionals and highlights the potential of 'Manger in Danger' as an evangelistic tool.
Resources Mentioned:
Scripture Referenced: Psalm 127
Highlights of the Interview:
Introduction to GraceAnna and Family Life
03:13 Christmas Traditions and Family Activities
06:00 The Inspiration Behind 'Manger in Danger'
12:01 The Importance of Teaching Children About Spiritual Battles
14:59 Creating a Theologically Rich Devotional
17:58 Practical Tips for Family Devotionals
21:01 Using 'Manger in Danger' as an Evangelistic Tool
Transcript
They're the joyful agains our children shout on the swings, the
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:exhausting agains of cooking and laundry,
and the difficult agains of discipline.
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:So much of what we do
as mothers is on repeat.
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:So what if we woke up with clarity,
knowing which agains we were called
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:to, and went to bed believing we
are faithful in what matters most?
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:We believe God's Word is
the key to untangle from the
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:confusion and overwhelm we feel.
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:Let's look up together to embrace a
motherhood full of freedom and joy.
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:Welcome back to the again, podcast
brought to you by entrusted ministries.
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:I'm Stephanie Hickox.
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:And before we get to today's episode,
I want to ask you for a favor.
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:If you're a faithful listener, or even
if you've just found us and you have
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:some great ideas about what we should be
bringing to the podcast, we would love
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:to have you be part of a focus group.
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:We also have one major project
coming your way in the new year.
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:And I'm looking for some wise
committed women to help steer
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:the ship and give us direction.
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:I really want to make sure that we bring
something that ministers to moms, right.
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:Where they're at.
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:So I'm looking for a handful of
ladies that would like to contribute.
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:It won't take more than an hour of your
time, but I hope that the influence
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:you have on the podcast and on our
decisions would be a blessing to you.
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:For the year to come.
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:If you're interested, you can
email me at Stephanie at Dot com.
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:That's S T E P H a N I E.
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:At E w a C h.com.
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:I'll put a link in the show notes and
I can't wait to hear your thoughts.
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:Today you are in for a real treat.
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:As I was thinking about how to
be intentional with my children.
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:Again, this holiday season, I asked
grace, Anna Castleberry to sit down
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:with me and tell me all about her new
advent devotional manger in danger.
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:Grace.
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:Anna is a godly mother
from North Carolina.
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:She has five kiddos.
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:She's an author, a pastor's wife, and just
a wonderful, humble sister in the Lord.
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:I wanted her to tell us all about how
this amazing resource came together.
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:And it was such a joy.
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:To hear about how it came to be.
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:And I'm telling you when you get
it, you'll be so impressed by
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:the quality and the beauty of it.
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:I know it's going to become a true
family favorite and so many homes.
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:So I wanted to give you plenty
of time to get your hands on a
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:set before December rolls in.
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:And I'll put those links right
in the show notes for you.
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:Today, you'll hear all about grace Anna's
thoughts on the Christmas season and how
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:manger and danger can be used to bring
glory and honor to the Lord in our homes.
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:Stephanie: GraceAnna, thank you
so much for joining us today.
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:I love your heart for God's
word and to bring hope and
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:encouragement and direction to moms.
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:I am truly excited to talk
about Manger in Danger, your
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:Advent devotional for families.
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:And I have to tell you,
it arrived in the mail.
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:And.
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:My entire family gasped when we saw
baby Jesus, even my 13 year old son.
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:We were just like, oh, he's perfect.
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:this set is so well put
together, so biblically rich.
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:right away, I was really struck by how You
were able to provide very simple language,
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:but still theologically accurate.
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:I am really excited to hear how you and
Grant came up with this idea and how the
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:Lord led you in bringing it to fruition.
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:But first, tell me a little bit about
yourself, what you're passionate about,
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:and then the ages of your kiddos and what
your family life looks like these days.
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:Yes,
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:GraceAnna: So looking forward to talking
and being here with your listeners.
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:So thank you.
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:And for your ministry my husband and
I live in Raleigh, North Carolina.
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:My husband is the pastor of
Capitol Community Church.
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:And so I mentioned that first because
so much of my life is being a pastor's
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:wife, which I absolutely love.
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:I love Discipling women in my church
and being involved with my, the
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:women's ministry in our church, but
really first and foremost, what I love
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:the most is just being my husband's
helper and mom to my children.
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:And I always remind myself when I get,
at times, we all get overwhelmed at times
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:with the things that we're called to.
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:And I always remind myself like,
okay, but what is my main ministry?
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:And it's my husband
and children right now.
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:And so that's my greatest joy
is to pour my time into them.
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:Grant and I have five children
ages 13 to 16 months, and we
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:have two girls and three boys.
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:So it's definitely a busy
season in our home, but As I
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:wouldn't trade it for anything.
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:And Truman, we have quite the span
of ages and Truman's our baby.
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:So he's keeping us all busy right
now as we try to keep him safe.
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:Stephanie: Yes.
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:GraceAnna: it's a great season.
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:Stephanie: Yes.
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:Aw, team effort.
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:So sweet.
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:I can tell how gifted you are and how
the Lord has really richly blessed you
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:and you have a heart to minister to
moms, but remembering the season goes
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:fast and even though sometimes the days
feel long, it does go quickly and making
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:sure that we're living without regrets.
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:And pouring into them each day.
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:So
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:GraceAnna: Amen.
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:So true.
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:Stephanie: I'm thinking about your family
then for Christmas time and those ages.
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:And it presents a different opportunity.
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:Now you're ministering to a young teen
and yet you're still like, Oh, can I
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:put breakable ornaments on the Christmas
tree with a baby crawling around.
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:So what are some highlights for you
and your family and special activities
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:you do for the Christmas season?
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:GraceAnna: Well, we do a lot
of the typical things that
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:I'm sure many families do.
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:We go out and look at Christmas
lights in our pajamas.
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:The girls and I love to
do Christmas cookies.
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:The boys sometimes join in, but
usually just join in with eating them.
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:Stephanie: Yeah.
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:GraceAnna: We love to make puppy chow,
which is just something that we make
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:and eat way too much of cinnamon bread.
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:And yeah, we're trying to just,
I guess, cause Truman's the
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:fifth, he just comes along and.
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:Sometimes is tired and
exhausted along the way.
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:I haven't put up the Christmas tree
yet, so maybe this year we'll be putting
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:like the breakable ornaments up high
and hoping that he won't, touch that,
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:but yeah, the other things I love
to do, obviously gingerbread houses,
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:and then I like to put a basket of
Christmas books on our fireplace and
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:I try to, Add a new one every year.
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:And that's been a really fun tradition.
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:I think Christmas day in the
morning is one of my favorites of
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:the books that we have right now.
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:And something interesting about
the home that we live in now Grant
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:and I bought this home two and a
half years ago, and it was known on
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:the street as the Christmas house.
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:The lady who lived in it
had 17 Christmas trees
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:Stephanie: Oh my.
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:Yes.
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:GraceAnna: her kitchen was red.
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:There's still remnants of red
that we have yet to renovate, and
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:the front of the house was green.
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:So Grant and I have tried to get rid
of a lot of that, but we try to keep
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:that Christmas spirit by letting
the kids have, Christmas trees in
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:their rooms and things like that.
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:Kind of an interesting
story about our house now.
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:Stephanie: Little bit of pressure
from the neighbors to move in.
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:GraceAnna: Yeah we're
definitely not living up to it.
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:Stephanie: Oh, wow.
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:That's a lot.
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:I heard of someone who had five.
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:I thought that was pretty impressive.
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:Seventeen.
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:Wow.
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:GraceAnna: Yes.
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:And like each bedroom upstairs,
she lived here alone and this house
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:has four bedrooms plus a bonus room
and she had trees and all of those.
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:Stephanie: Wow.
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:Wow.
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:I think.
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:I think you producing Manger in
Danger maybe just makes you, you owned
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:your legacy, you're good, you don't
have to keep up with all the change.
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:Tell your neighbors, we have also
embraced the Christmas season in a
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:different way, this is our contribution.
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:GraceAnna: Oh my goodness.
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:Yes.
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:Stephanie: Can you tell me a little
bit about how you and Grant got this
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:idea and the process, just your hope
for how it would bless families?
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:GraceAnna: So four to five years
ago when, our oldest son was born.
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:And our oldest two are girls
when they were quite small, they
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:asked me to buy Elf on the Shelf.
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:A lot of their friends had it
and I just thought about it,
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:but it just gave me pause.
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:Even though obviously we decorate for
Christmas, we put up all the Christmas
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:trees, we do so much of that fun stuff.
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:We really do strive to keep Christ at
the center because all those things I
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:mentioned Before they're fun but they
really don't keep Christ at the center.
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:They're just fun traditions that we do.
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:And so just being a mom and trying to
think about, what are the memories I want
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:my kids to remember when they grow up?
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:How can I be intentional?
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:Just that effort of having to buy
something like that wasn't Christ
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:centered just gave me pause.
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:And that year in our Bible curriculum, I
had been teaching the kids How since the
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:beginning of time, there's always been
a war between good and evil the kingdom
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:of darkness and the kingdom of light.
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:And Satan has always
been warring against God.
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:It's not an equal battle by any means,
but still Satan has been at work.
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:But how really the hope of the
gospel is rooted in the Christians
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:Christmas story that God sent his son.
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:And as I, we have been, Learning that
year, one of the lessons was on how
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:King Herod had sought to kill all the
baby boys ages two and under in an
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:effort to present, prevent Jesus from,
growing up and, All of those things
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:and of course my kids at the time were
just shocked because their brother
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:Patrick was you know Around that age.
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:I think he was maybe 13 months and
they just couldn't believe you know
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:that someone would try want to kill a
baby boy like that and It just I just
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:remember it just hit home that lesson
and we had just talked about like it
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:seems like Everything was in danger
and that everything was going wrong,
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:but God is sovereign and he protected
his son And he is always in control.
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:He's in control of your life So it was
just one of those moments, where it
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:was just that It hit home for us all.
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:And so when I was contemplating
should I buy this game?
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:I just thought, you know what?
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:Like I should just take the manger
out of our nativity and hide it.
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:And, representing how Herod
wanted to kill the babe boys.
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:So I took the manger.
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:I hit it when the kids got up
this morning, I said, okay, I
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:didn't get off on the shelf, but
I've got something, really fun.
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:The manger is in danger and
you've got to go find it.
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:And of course our kids went crazy.
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:You know how kids are.
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:It's something fun that mom's done
has hidden something in the house.
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:And so they were screaming,
running all over the place.
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:And then they asked me to hide it again.
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:That same morning I hid it again.
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:I think maybe four or five times
they wanted me to keep re hiding it.
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:And then the next day they asked me again.
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:And so we did that all
that year in December.
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:And then the next year they, Made
sure to say, Mom, don't forget to get
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:the manger out and to hide it again.
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:And so really we would hide it at night
or if Grant and I forgot, we would
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:usually get up before the kids and
hide it first thing in the morning.
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:But that's it just organically happened.
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:Never, I wasn't trying to create a game.
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:Like it just happened.
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:really just because I had just decided,
okay, I'm going to do something different.
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:And then sometimes I would post
about it on Instagram and my
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:stories and moms would message me
like, can you send me the rules?
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:Like, how does this work?
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:So I knew that like people were interested
and then Grant and I talked about it.
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:Yeah.
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:On a podcast.
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:Last year, and that's when 316
reached out to us, 316 publishing
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:and said, Hey, we would really like
to create this game so that families
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:can have it in their own home.
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:So that's the story the devotionals
had come along Really from Grant
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:and I beginning to add that with
the kids and, but we were, Grant
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:wrote them, specifically for this
game and it's made it even better.
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:And I can talk about that later, but
yeah, that's the, how it happened.
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:Stephanie: I love hearing that because it
shows the faithfulness of God to respond
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:to a mother's question and, Lord, how
do I keep you at the center of this?
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:And the Lord led you so faithfully
and even in a simple way that you
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:were able to start that next day.
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:Without buying anything, as you said,
and I just love his faithfulness in that.
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:But I also really love what you were
saying about the battle, and I think so
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:many children's curriculums in the church
focus on the blessings and the promises
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:of our faith, and I don't even think
it's always intentional, but sometimes
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:I feel we're setting our children up.
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:for real disappointment and discouragement
when they see the battle as they get
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:older and this real enemy and if we look
in scripture the presence of persecution
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:or the presence of trials and hardships
does not mean that the lord's promises
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:are not at work or that his faithfulness
is missing Even as recently I was reading
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:about Joseph in prison and so often it
says and the favor of God was with him
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:We can read that and say, but he was in
prison, but it does not negate God's plan.
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:So I think just that perspective of
teaching our children about the battle
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:and being aware of the trials that might
come, but knowing God is sovereign and
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:he will be faithful through it all.
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:It's so important to keep in mind.
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:I also noticed that you have really great
tips about adapting this for different
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:ages, and having different children read
the scriptures, and I really do love that
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:whenever we're teaching our children.
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:A devotional, even though it feels
like this is absolutely rooted in
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:scripture to go back to scripture
ourselves and say, this is where
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:we're getting that information.
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:So tell us a little bit about the
writing of the devotional process.
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:GraceAnna: So yeah, I love how the
devotionals came to be because Grant,
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:Would typically in our family lead
that devotional time unless, I was
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:home with the kids and we did it in
the morning, but typically in the
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:evenings, he would just, grab his Bible
and we would pick different passages
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:to read together throughout December.
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:But for our family, it was always
a bit sporadic because we struggled
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:to find a resource that really
fit with the ages of our kids.
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:Our kids, are now beginning to get older.
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:But.
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:At this time, we're pretty young.
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:And so finding something that
was simple and yet theologically
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:deep was challenging for us.
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:Kind of like you said a minute ago,
Stephanie, just about how so often,
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:children's books don't address the real
issues and they don't get to the heart
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:of sinfulness and depravity and all of
these things within us and without us.
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:And so Grant and I were pretty sporadic
and it's interesting because, because
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:I'm a pastor's wife every Christmas.
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:People, women would ask me, Christina,
what is your recommendation for Advent?
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:And I would be like, well, I've
seen this looks really good.
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:And I've done a snippet of
this and a snippet of that.
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:But after 316 publishing
contacted us great.
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:And I said, let's get organized and
really put together something that
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:for families that will really get
to the heart and really, you have
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:to be forced sometimes to do that.
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:At first we started collaborating
with it and it was just challenging
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:for us to write together.
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:Grant and I both write, but
we just, we write differently.
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:And when he gave me the first
draft of what he wrote, I just
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:said, Grant, this is so good.
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:You just need to write these.
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:I'll edit them.
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:I'll write the discussion
questions, but you like just from
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:a pastor's heart and also as a dad.
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:And so that's how they came to be.
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:And oh my goodness, I
think they are so good.
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:Of course, I'm completely biased,
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:Stephanie: No, they're beautiful.
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:GraceAnna: But I think
they are just beautiful.
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:I think they get to the heart of
children, but I also think they
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:will minister to parents as they
read them to their children.
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:There's also discussion questions at
the end of each lesson that parents can
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:ask their children and hopefully that
will generate lots of discussion and get
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:children of all ages involved as well.
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:Stephanie: Yes, and
they're a really nice link.
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:I have tried some devotional.
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:It feels like often they're so brief
and they don't have theological richness
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:or they're really long and it's hard
to have your little one sit through it.
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:I love how this is a nice link, but
then through that discussion, you
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:can really adapt it for what your
kids are ready for, but I think that
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:you've really provided something that.
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:Will fit for a lot of ages and also
minister to parents, as you were saying.
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:GraceAnna: Yeah, and one other thing
that I didn't mention was as Grant
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:was writing them, he would read them
to the kids at the dinner table.
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:So these have been
tested by real children.
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:Stephanie: I, that is, I always love
like sitting down on the couches and
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:having candlelight and trying to set
the tone in front of the Christmas tree.
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:But sometimes having that captive audience
at the dinner table, they're eating
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:and often my husband finishes first,
that can be a great time to do this.
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:Can it?
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:GraceAnna: Well, yeah, and
really, that's an encouragement.
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:I give a lot of families who maybe
have young children, they need
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:somebody to be contained in a high
chair or sitting still is challenging.
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:Maybe it's hard for you as the mom
to watch your kid do somersaults
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:while you're trying to read it.
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:So mealtime is a wonderful time
to start something like that.
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:And something that we still do a lot
now, even though our kids are older,
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:cause it's just an intentional time
where we're already all together.
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:Stephanie: That's beautiful.
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:And then at the end, you have a main idea
summary and a goal of each day, which is
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:really beautiful to make sure as a parent
you're keeping the intention of it, the
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:focus, and I just love how concisely
you wrote those beautiful summaries.
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:GraceAnna: Thank you so much.
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:Stephanie: And then you also have
a gospel presentation at the end
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:with God's plan of salvation.
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:I just felt wow, you are really
equipping parents to do this well.
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:And I feel that for a new believer,
they would find such encouragement
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:in this, but also feel very equipped.
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:And also for those who have been in the
faith for a long time, they're going to
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:feel, wow, how, what a wonderful summary
this is of putting together God's plan.
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:God's plan of redemption and
salvation in the Christmas story.
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:It's really beautifully done.
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:So I'm so excited to do
it with my kids this year.
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:GraceAnna: I'm so excited about
that gospel presentation, Stephanie.
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:That was 316 Publishing saying
this needs to be in there.
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:And I'm so glad because a few weeks ago
at church a woman came up to me and said,
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:I bought this for, my family, but I also
bought it for some family members who do
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:not know the Lord and my, and they were
so excited to start this tradition because
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:as so many people they may think they
know the Lord or they have an openness
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:to the gospel, but they don't, haven't
come to know the Lord themselves yet.
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:And so it's really been Sweet for my
own heart to see, okay, I started this
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:as something for my kids, but my prayer
is that God would use it in the homes
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:and families of children who do not
yet know the Lord, which we know that's
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:the Mangerity of homes because most of
our children don't know the, are coming
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:to know the Lord, don't know the Lord,
but that even for parents that this
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:would be an evangelistic tool and 316
is even selling them in a two pack.
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:So the thought is, buy one for
yourself and buy one to give away.
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:And so, just praying that God will
use this in the lives of families.
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:And I think a reminder just as moms,
sometimes you think you're doing
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:something just for your kids, but.
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:The spiritual impact that you have in the
lives of your children is so far reaching,
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:even just your children coming to know
the Lord and they are going to do what?
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:Leave your home and
they're going to go out.
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:And so just that we have that big vision
of all the, the gospel going forth and
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:it starts, around our own kitchen table.
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:But our prayer, of course, is that it
would go out to all the ends of the earth.
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:Stephanie: That is absolutely beautiful.
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:I did not even think about.
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:The implications for this being an
evangelistic tool, but it feels that at
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:Christmas time, people's hearts are so
ripe and ready to hear about the Lord.
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:So certainly this would be an
absolutely incredible resource
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:to provide others with.
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:What a neat gift for thinking about
for neighbors and I have some people
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:in my life that have expressed that.
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:Yeah, we need to get going back to
church, but sometimes when you invite
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:them to church, it feels like a big
step, but I can see opening up this
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:book at home would be less intimidating
and draw them closer to the Lord.
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:That is so beautiful.
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:I'm so glad that you talked about that.
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:Well I have that sweet little baby Jesus
sitting right here as I'm recording.
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:Just, it's just so precious and
I just again want to commend you
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:at how well it's done and I think
it's beautiful how the Lord used
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:you and Grant to do this together
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:GraceAnna: Thank you.
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:Stephanie: Do you have any
practical tips for simplifying
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:the busyness of the season?
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:How has the Lord led you in
protecting it and making sure that
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:these spiritual moments are really
the things that have the emphasis
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:GraceAnna: it is so busy, isn't it?
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:It's so busy for us as moms.
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:My mind's already been going through my
kid's Christmas list, and what do I have?
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:What did I store in the
closet earlier this year?
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:What, all those things.
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:And The thing that I always try to go
back to and I'm speaking here as a mom
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:and as a woman, so whether you're a
mom or not, but I always think about
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:Mary, because she's such a vital
part of the Christmas story that she
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:treasured all these things in her heart
and that she was obedient to the Lord.
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:And so I always think about that and
just, Wanting to pass on spiritual
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:truth to my children, wanting
to make Christ at the center.
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:But it is if it is not on my
heart first, it is so true.
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:It affects the whole
environment of our home.
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:You know that phrase, like if mama
ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.
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:Well, it's true, right?
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:When you're just like bustling around
and your heart is just anxious how that
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that sinfulness in my own heart.
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November, December is that my
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:Every year is listened to the
Gospels on audio, or at least just
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:listening to the first few chapters
and hearing that Christmas story.
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:I love playing Prepare Him Room,
which is a CD that Sovereign
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:Grace put out years ago.
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:My kids even know Oh mom, don't forget
to play Prepare Him Room because
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:they know how much I love that.
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:But I think just For women just
remembering that your heart is the most
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:important thing that You will do in your
home is that if your heart is centered on
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to your family in the Christmas season.
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:I guess the other practical thing
would be honestly, why we create a
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:manger in danger, because I mentioned
before I was struggling with having
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:something consistent and so having
those consistent devotionals to go.
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:Do with the kids every day
that's short and sweet, but we're
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:hitting the real meaning has been
really helpful for our family.
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:And then of course we do other things
as a church, Operation Christmas Child,
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:Christmas Eve service We do a carol
saying, so we've got some other things
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:So other things that we're keep
doing to keep Christ at the center.
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:But my biggest encouragement would
be, keep Him at the center of your
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the lives of those around you.
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:Stephanie: Well said.
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:the Christmas Eve service and
Easter service are my favorite
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:moments of the whole year.
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:But a couple years ago, the
Lord was really impressing
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:Mary gave up and what that Christmas,
that first Christmas was like for her,
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:away from her family and fleeing for the
safety of her baby and not having the
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:comfort of a bed to deliver a child in.
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:She gave up everything and yet, you're
right, she did treasure and ponder
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:those things in her heart and the
nearness of the Lord being her greatest
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:treasure and that surpasses everything.
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:So when we think, Oh, I want to give my
children all these great experiences and
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:opportunities and blessings to remember.
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:That he is their greatest blessing.
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:He's our greatest blessing.
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:It doesn't have to be so fancy.
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:We need to live lives that
are transformed by him.
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:And you're right that's what
they're going to remember.
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:The peace and the joy of it more than
the perfectly wrapped gifts or decorated
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:Christmas tree, all of that can add to it.
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:But I think you're right.
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:We need to make sure that our hearts
are right before him, before we think.
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:That those things.
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:are going to really make
the Christmas for them.
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:GraceAnna: Stephanie.
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:I'm going to take that like into
my Christmas season, but just
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:thinking about, like you said,
like what was Mary's Christmas it
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:was not perfect, she, far from it.
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:Think about her in that stable.
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:Stephanie: Right.
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:GraceAnna: Jesus, no epidurals,
no anything, but how much, how
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:often do we think like that
we deserve something better?
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:And how often as women do we have
discontentment rising up in our hearts
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:when we really should have thankfulness,
which we see in Mary's, Magnificat
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:where she just says, I'm just a humble.
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:Humble girl and you've looked upon me
and blessed me and for us as women who
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:know the lord That's what God's done
for us You know, we're just humble.
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:But he's looked upon us Even when
we not only didn't have anything,
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:but we've been far from who we
should be what a good reminder
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:Stephanie: Yes.
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:I'm always so encouraged
by her and her faith.
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:We can tell why the Lord
chose her to bring his son.
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:And yet, of course, Christ
is the center of it all.
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:But it's just, it's a wonderful
model for us as mothers.
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:It makes me think about Psalm 127.
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:Unless the Lord builds the
house, they labor in vain.
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:Who builds it?
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:Unless the Lord watches over the city,
the watchman stays awake in vain.
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:That is actually the theme verse
of entrusted, but I heard you say
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:it on a podcast recently talking
about the Lord really building
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:our foundation for our families.
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:And then later in the Psalm, of course, it
says that children are heritage from the
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:Lord and the fruit of the womb, a reward.
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:As we celebrate Christmas or whatever
we're doing to remember that children
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:are a blessing from Him and they
require a lot of work and a lot
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:of faithfulness, but to keep that
perspective of thank you Lord for this
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:gift may I just serve in gratitude.
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:I've got links in the show notes
so that you can purchase Manger
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:Before you go, I want to pray
this benediction over you
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:from 2 Thessalonians 1, 11 12.
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:We're rooting for you.
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:To this end, we always pray for you,
that our God may make you worthy of His
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:calling, and may fulfill every resolve
for good and every work of faith by
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:His power, so that the name of our Lord
Jesus may be glorified in you, and you in
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:Him, according to the grace of our God.
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:And the Lord Jesus Christ.
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:Amen.
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:Until we meet again.