Episode 108

#106. It's Going to Be Okay: God’s Faithfulness When You Need Him Most | An Interview with Nicole Fredricksen: Part 2

What if.....? When the hardest things in life happen, will God be there for us? Will He be there for our kids? How we get through? And for the rest of us, how do we support widows when they lose a spouse? Nicole authentically shares a testimony of losing her husband to cancer, while pressing into God's strength for motherhood. She is honest, yet hope-filled and she reminds us that the Lord will be good whatever may come.

Nicole is the mentor we all wish we had. Listen to Part 1 of our interview with her here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-again-podcast-on-biblical-motherhood/id1700555502?i=1000732123975

Would it bless you to be pointed to the truth and hope of God's Word every day? Find our Dwelling Place podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dwelling-place-bible-plan-for-busy-moms/id1863449227

Scripture Referenced:

Hebrews 13:5

Psalm 84:11

Matthew 6:25-34

Transcript
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They're the joyful agains our children.

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Shout on the swings, the exhausting

agains of cooking and laundry and

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the difficult agains of discipline.

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So much of what we do

as mothers is on repeat.

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So what if we woke up with clarity,

knowing which agains we were called to.

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And went to bed believing we are

faithful in what matters most.

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We believe God's word is

the key to untangle from the

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confusion and overwhelm we feel.

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Let's look up together to embrace a

motherhood full of freedom and joy.

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I am Stephanie Hickox, and this is

brought to you by Entrusted Ministries.

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In this episode, Nicole

Frederickson authentically shares

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how she became a widow after her

husband's battle with cancer.

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She had two young children at the time,

yet the Lord was there for her in it.

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She doesn't sugarcoat how difficult

it was, but she points us back to

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the God who says he will never,

never, never leave us or forsake us.

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There's a reason I'm

releasing this right now.

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In a world where there is so much chaos

going on and we're wondering what we can

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do, scripture tells us true religion is

this, that we care for orphans and widows.

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I hope we look to the big picture,

but I also hope we have eyes to

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see who's right in front of us.

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This is just one of the agains

we can be teaching our kids.

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As Jesus came to serve others, we

were created to be his hands and feet.

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Nicole gives some truly practical

ways we can serve widows around us.

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I do apologize that we had some

audio issues in this episode,

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particularly with a neighbor's

dog barking in the background.

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But I hope you're willing to push

through that to realize that Nicole's

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encouragement can help you lay down any

fear of what may come, that whatever

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happens, God will be faithful through it.

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This is the second half of our

conversation and we get right into

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this heavy topic, but if you want

to hear her gentle wisdom for

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parenting I'll link that part of

the conversation in our show notes.

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Nicole.

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Let's transition to talk

about the situation.

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I have so much respect for the way

that you've traveled through as

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you've lost a spouse and how you

pressed into the Lord through it.

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Can you share a little bit more of

the circumstances of that trial?

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Nicole: sure.

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. Okay, so 2008, my husband

Jim, he was a mortgage broker.

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And so if everybody can remember

what happened in:

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time of the great mortgage crisis.

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bubble popping, it was just really

difficult and he was coming home

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every day with, huge headaches.

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And I was just really concerned

because he didn't have headaches.

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And I was like, can I help?

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Can I help you?

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Can I, he's no, Nicole, don't

you just understand what's

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happening at work right now?

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And I'm like, okay, I do.

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And so I just would be praying for him.

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And What was a headache turned into

something more where it was actually the

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day before my daughter's eighth birthday.

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He was in bed and he just couldn't sleep.

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couldn't really move, couldn't walk.

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And so I, for some reason, and I still

can't remember why my brother was

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there staying with us at the time.

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And so I told him I'm taking Jim to the

hospital, which was a big deal for a man

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to let you take him to the emergency room.

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And we had a health crisis.

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a few years before, and I had taken

him to emergency room without packing

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a bag, and the nurse admitted him,

and I was shocked, and she said, Mrs.

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Siskel, this is what happens.

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We either let you go, or we

admit you, and I said, okay.

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So then I remembered that, so I packed

a quick bag for him, and we went,

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never imagining What it could be.

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But Jim in the emergency room

was diagnosed with a brain tumor.

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And not only that, he was having

abdominal pain and he also

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had a tumor , in his colon.

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Oh, wow.

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At the same time.

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And they have, they were like, now

this has to be two different things.

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It's very unusual.

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For it to be in the brain and the colon.

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So we just were praying and praying.

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And next thing you know,

he's being taken to Rush.

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downtown and the Lord was just

so good even in all of it.

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I had a dear friend that was a nurse

practitioner in oncology so she could

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help me understand how to navigate it.

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We got into the head

neurosurgeon right away.

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He had surgery right away and then

the other surgery for his colon.

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And As scary as it was, even

in the hospital, the Lord kept

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bringing believers like it would be

a nurse coming in and she would be,

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giving us a verse or food delivery.

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It would be a believer.

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We just felt surrounded by believers

the whole time because it was

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just such a frightening time.

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So that was the beginning of it,

and it hit us like a freight train.

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Elizabeth was I was so grateful, her

birthday was the 28th of March, that

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it was the 27th of March, that it

didn't have to like, be on her day.

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And Michael was 9, so they were 8 9.

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And one thing about me is I always

try to understand as much as I can.

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That's how I cope.

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And the Lord was really good to

me in that he allowed me to have

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insight in what was really happening

so that I could navigate it and be

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okay for the children and help Jim.

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And Jim's way of navigating it was.

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Being so positive, like he was the

most positive person you could meet.

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He would be getting his chemotherapy

and he would be evangelizing

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the people right next to him.

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he just never, he never gave up hope.

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And I just was so appreciative

that the Lord was as He is.

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He so individually cares for us.

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So He allowed me to understand

where we were going with this.

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Even though I prayed and I prayed

and I prayed for His healing

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and the kids and I would pray.

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But the Lord helped me understand

where we were going with

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Stephanie: Sure.

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He was preparing

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Nicole: was preparing me

and helping me understand.

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And yet, for Jim, Jim

never stopped having hope.

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, except for maybe twice during

the end he was pretty sick and he

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said, Do you think I'm gonna die?

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Do you think I'm gonna die?

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And I said, Honey, we're all gonna die.

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We're all gonna die.

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Just a matter of when.

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And he's Yeah, you're right.

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And then, never talked about it again.

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And then he mentioned

it maybe one other time.

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He just said, don't you put me in a suit?

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And I said, Okay, what

should I put you in?

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And he goes, A polo and khakis.

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And I said, Alright.

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You got it.

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Whatever you want.

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And then never talked about it again.

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It was just his way.

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It was just his way and he wanted

to remain hopeful and joyful.

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Anyway, I'll let you say God really

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Treated us individually

and allowed me to grieve

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Ahead of time.

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And , I just prayed all the time to

give me wisdom with the kids because

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they were dealing with it differently.

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Michael is a little more like me.

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I wanted to understand everything.

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And as much as I thought was

appropriate, I would share with

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him, just cause he has more of a

medical mind, tried to understand it.

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Stephanie: Sure, and you said that

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Nicole: earlier, so

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Stephanie: you can't stifle that

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Nicole: it's

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Stephanie: It's right before him.

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Nicole: Exactly, and I just felt like

I wanted to meet them where they were

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And Elizabeth just really, she, Was

very caring towards her dad, but she

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didn't want to think about it Talk, it

was just and she was a year younger,

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but that's just more her nature

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Stephanie: Sure

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Nicole: Not the same as Michael

so as Things were progressing.

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I just kept asking the Lord to help the

kids understand and he was just really

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good to me with that and it was hard.

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It was

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really hard, but the Lord was good.

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The Lord was good.

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Stephanie: Did you feel you weren't

fully able to process it because

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you were just trying to be there so

much for Jim and for your children?

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Did you feel like you were

able to grieve as well?

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Nicole: Yeah, I think I did.

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There were a lot of times when we were

in the hospital by ourselves things like

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that where it was just he and I and I had

to have family or people helping me with

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the children so I could have that time.

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But It is a lot when

you're the mom, right?

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And the wife.

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So you're trying to be sensitive to

everyone and by nature, I'm a helper

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and I just wanted to help shepherd

all three of them through it,

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Stephanie: right?

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And

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He was diagnosed in March how

long was the treatment process

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Nicole: About 15 months.

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And my friend told me when he was

diagnosed, I asked her, I said,

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Jeannie, just be straight with me.

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How long do you think?

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She said about 15 months.

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It's not good.

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Stephanie: Wow.

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Nicole: And it was 15 months.

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Yeah.

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And he had a good run where

we thought in November.

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We got no evidence of disease.

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So we were so thrilled and so happy.

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And then December 22nd, my

birthday, we got news that it

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came back really aggressively.

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It was back in his liver, and

it was back in his brain again.

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So that was a huge hit.

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And no matter what,

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I know the Lord was preparing me, but

I just wasn't prepared to hear that

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news.

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So that was really hard.

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And then for both of us, like

it was really hard for Jim, but

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then he typically, he bolstered

himself back up and I did too.

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And we're just like, okay,

we're going to do this and we're

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going to see what the Lord has.

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Stephanie: Yeah.

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Nicole: And then it was

pretty challenging after that.

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Finally we found out he was in and out of

the hospital and I think it was like July.

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I took the kids to Great America because

, I had a friend stay with Jim and I just

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wanted them to have a fun day and kind

of a little bit of respite and then

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we got a call that things were bad.

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And he went back in the hospital

and, I think it's just how we cope.

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Like I should have in hindsight

realized, okay, he's probably not

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coming home out of the hospital.

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But I was so shocked.

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Like no matter how you're

preparing yourself and the Lord

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is preparing you and you know the

reality, I was still so shocked.

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Like I just couldn't believe.

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That this was it, but that was it.

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, he fought his fight and I brought

the children to see him and he was

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semi comatose, but the love of a

father, when he saw his, he knew

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his kids, he made such an effort.

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to say something to them that

it was really so precious.

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So

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Stephanie: And after all

that time of putting all his

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energy into fighting, Yeah.

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To realize I need to leave

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well.

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Nicole: Yeah.

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It was hard, but he,

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he suffered really well.

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He suffered really well and he

honored and glorified the Lord.

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It was really hard.

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He was a big, strong guy.

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Jim could do anything.

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, he used to rehab homes like in

Lincoln Park when he was a young

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person, so he could do anything.

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It was a dream.

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I'd be like, I want to do this.

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Okay, and it would be done.

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It would be done perfectly and quickly and

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Stephanie: rare.

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Nicole: Yeah, that's rare

Dale can do things very

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perfectly but not quickly But I

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love it and i'm grateful

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but yeah, so It was very hard for him

because he was a doer and just, a big

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strong guy that was used to being on

the go and providing and all of that.

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So that was very hard.

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Stephanie: What was that season like

for you when he actually did pass?

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Nicole: I will say that I was plagued

with a lot of fear especially for

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my kids because such an aggressive

cancer, you just really worry

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what is going to happen to them?

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Is this a genetic thing?

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Is this something that's

going to affect them?

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And you also worry about their emotional

health and their spiritual health.

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And I just was so afraid.

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And I had to really go to the Lord

and just seek Him like, honestly

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crying out please protect my kids.

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Please help us.

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And he was so good.

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He gave me a lot of verses to hang on to.

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My main verse is Psalm 84, 11, where

the Lord God is a son in the shield.

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He will give grace and glory.

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No good thing will he withhold

from those who walk up brightly.

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And I just kept going back to that,

Lord, You're a sun and a shield.

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You're going to be that provider and

protector for Michael and Elizabeth.

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And you're not going to withhold good.

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That's who you are.

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And he's shown himself to be true to that.

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Stephanie: That's one of my banner

verses as well, to cling to

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his goodness and his protection.

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And sometimes I think when we see

the horrible things that can happen

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on this earth, It brings a new

fear in you I'm not naive anymore.

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I can imagine that it's

very natural to fear

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Nicole: As young women, we get married

and, We're so bright eyed and hopeful,

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and it's not that I'm not hopeful,

and that I wasn't hopeful during this

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trial, but I never would have written

my story to be a widow from cancer.

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I just always thought, when I would

hear stories like that and feel bad

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and, but I never put myself in that

position that, that would be my story.

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But it is my story.

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It's a story that the Lord gave to

me and to Michael and Elizabeth.

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That's where I walk.

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Stephanie: So how did you see God's

faithfulness to you and your family?

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Nicole: Church was

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so good to us in school.

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And I reached out and got some soul

care from Michael and Elizabeth.

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And we had two wonderful people

who met them right where they were

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at and really helped them process

their grief and put words to things.

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And just were there.

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It's just really a blessing to me

to have other people be there in

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such an intimate way for my kids.

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So that was for sure a huge blessing.

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And the church came around me

and helped me with some guidance

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that I desperately needed.

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And like now Now what do I do with some

financial things and some big decisions

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and so that was really very helpful

and I'm still so grateful to the church

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for that because At least was very

abreast of all of our financial dealings.

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I took care of everything at

home, so that wasn't a problem.

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With some women, their

husband did everything.

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At least, I knew what I needed to

know, but I needed guidance and I

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needed

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someone to help me figure out next steps

and what we do and that sort of thing.

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So I was super grateful.

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And then just like friends in

small group that were just praying.

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And I remember one, she's

still a dear friend.

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Here I was driving, Doing all this

driving with kids and doing all things she

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Offered to help and I said no, it's okay.

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It's all right.

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She goes Nicole No, we're gonna just

help each other and , I never forgot

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that and I was like, yeah we can

do that we can help each other and

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It was great to feel like I

wasn't alone in this season

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Stephanie: because you're

carrying so many things.

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To figure out the things where you, maybe

you could persevere to do it, but maybe

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it's better for you to rely on others

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Nicole: It was humbling,

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But good.

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Stephanie: Elizabeth and Michael got

older, did you find that they processed

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it in different ways, or maybe different,

deeper questions came up, or that you

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would see it in them spiritually or

emotionally, what they were going through?

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Nicole: I think so grief is a funny thing.

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You can be going along and then

all of a sudden it's at you again.

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And you're not really, sometimes

it's a surprise, sometimes it's

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a birthday or a special thing.

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I noticed Especially for Elizabeth

and Michael, when they would have

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accomplishments or a special thing

that would happen, a birthday, a

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graduation, they would be really

excited and happy, but they would

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be also sad because their dad wasn't

there to experience it with them.

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And now I am remarried, And so my husband

Dale has been a huge blessing to us.

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He came alongside us We

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got married, when Michael

and Elizabeth were 12 and 13.

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Okay.

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And so he has been an awesome father

figure to them and they love him.

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And so it doesn't diminish.

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Dale being a part of our lives, but

they still felt sad that their dad

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wasn't there, especially like Elizabeth

just got married and she just felt

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really sad that her dad couldn't be

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Stephanie: there.

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Definitely.

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Nicole: And she did want Dale to walk her

down the aisle, which was a huge blessing.

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That's changed.

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She Wasn't always,

didn't always want that.

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So we've talked about it.

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Started at, I want you to walk

to me down the aisle, Mom.

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Okay.

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And then she said, I want you and Dale.

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And I said, okay.

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And then now when she got

married, she said, I want Dale.

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And I said, I think that's awesome.

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So that was a huge growth of their

relationship and her acceptance of him.

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But it didn't take away the

sadness of her dad not being there.

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these important things,

it doesn't go away.

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It I don't know if it even becomes easier.

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I think it just becomes, I don't know.

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I don't know the answer.

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I don't know the right word

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Stephanie: The shock wears off.

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Nicole: The shock

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wears

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Stephanie: off.

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But the pain is still very real.

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and you said that you had really

prayed that the Lord would bring

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another man to help guide your family.

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Nicole: I

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did.

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I did.

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I prayed a lot a long list.

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And I really wanted to have someone

to partner with me, to be a dad to

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Michael and Elizabeth, and a husband

to me, and to do life together.

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And I wanted, Both of them, but

especially Michael, to have a man

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that he could see as a model,

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to

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model after.

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And Dale's been a gift to us.

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He's a man, he's not perfect, but

he loves us, he loves Jesus, he

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loves the kids like his own, so

we're just super grateful, it's been

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very redemptive for us as a family.

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Stephanie: I can imagine so many

emotions than trying to then be united

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and become one with another person.

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Did you wonder, is this

going to happen to me again?

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Or did you feel loyalty to Jim

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Nicole: I

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felt,

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I felt released, so I

didn't feel that guilt.

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I felt

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Yeah, I've I had prayed so much about

it and I, I really felt at peace

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when it was time to even explore.

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And I was open to see

what the Lord would have.

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Dale and Jim are so different.

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They have some similarities, like

they both like to fish and work with

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their hands and things like that.

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But they are night and day.

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So I feel like, I don't know,

I feel like I was okay to have

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that chapter in To Love Jim.

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And then to have this

chapter in this season.

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Stephanie: That makes And

how did you handle it with your

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kids as you started dating?

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Was Dale the first person you dated?

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Nicole: yeah, he was really the

first person I dated and I had

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conversations with the children to

prepare them and let them know what

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I was thinking and how they felt.

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And if it would have been

really traumatic, I would have

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taken that as a point to okay,

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Stephanie: Sure.

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Nicole: But They felt okay, they

were, I wouldn't say positive, but

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they were very neutral about it, and

seemed accepting that it was okay for

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me, and so I did it slowly I didn't

introduce him right away, for sure

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but when I felt like, okay, there's

really something here, then I did and

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it was good, michael was like a golden

retriever, and was like, Hi, I'm Michael.

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There's another man, and you're

nice, and you like to fish.

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And Elizabeth was the cat with the side

eye this is my mom, and this is my house,

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and, she did not warm up very quickly.

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She wasn't mean to him, but she was not

like warm and it took her a little bit, it

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took her a little bit, but I am actually,

it was really grateful that my daughter

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did not give her heart away so quickly.

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I was like, that's okay.

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That's all right.

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He's going to have to prove

himself to you and no problem.

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We'll see what happens.

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Stephanie: Good for you.

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As much as you're wanting them to

respect authority and to be open minded

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that was a wise

understanding to not push it.

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Nicole: Yeah

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Yeah.

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And she was fine.

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She just was not warm and friendly,

friendly in a respectful way,

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but not excited, like Michael.

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Stephanie: How would you recommend

that we come alongside someone in

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a similar struggle, whether it's

finding their spouse has a cancer

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diagnosis or becoming a widow?

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Nicole: The first thing I would say

is If you have a friend or someone

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who you're close to that happens,

one thing I heard from my friends a

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lot was I don't want to burden you

with you have so much happening.

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Your problems are way bigger than mine.

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Bigger than mine.

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And I would be like, Oh my goodness.

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No, I want to come alongside you too.

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Like your problems are

important, whatever it might be.

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And so I would say don't shy away from

like sharing what's going on with you

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personally, just because you feel like

someone is carrying a heavy burden.

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Like I heard that a lot.

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And I know people were trying to be

just so kind and loving and careful.

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But I just still wanted to be involved

with other people's lives and not only

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focus on my life, I wanted to be normal.

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And so I would just say, Lean

in and don't be afraid to be

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transparent with whatever it is.

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If it's your, you're struggling with

potty training or you got a flat tire

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in your car, you can share these things

and still have a genuine relationship.

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And secondly, I would say do not

say, let me know if I can help.

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Look for the needs.

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I had, I remember my first Christmas,

I had this giant wreath I put

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somehow, I don't even know how

I got it above the garage and I

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Stephanie: Wow.

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Nicole: And then it was

like, Bitter cold, February.

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I am the type of person, no judgment

to anybody else, but I like my

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things down after New Year's.

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That is my way I do things.

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And that wreath was up in February.

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And I just did not have a way to get it

down because of the ice and all that.

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And somebody noticed and said, we're going

to come over and take down that wreath.

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And I said, Oh, thank you so

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It was like, it was just wonderful.

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And I didn't want to, I should have

asked, I should have asked, but

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I felt like I have so many needs.

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I didn't want to bother somebody,

so that's one thing I would say,

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look for ways to help and you

don't want to impose yourself but.

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Offer in a positive way like, I noticed

this, could we help you with this?

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Instead of the let me know, because no

one, they're not going to let you know.

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They're not going to, most people are not.

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And then I guess the other

thing is just be sensitive.

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I started uh, CaringBridge and

a lot of people do that now.

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To help people know how to pray

because just going to church was

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so hard because people would ask

the same question over and over.

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it's cathartic to, to say it a few times,

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but you don't want to have

to repeat it so often.

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And sometimes your kids are there.

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So just to be sensitive.

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Stephanie: You like to write

and to process that way

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or was it purely practical

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Nicole: It, It was helpful.

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It helped me process.

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And now I'll sometimes

even go back and look.

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Because I saw God working so much

and it reminds me of how He worked so

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clearly and faithfully in like amazing

ways during that very hard time.

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Stephanie: Yes,

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if you could go back.

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At the beginning, when Jim

received the diagnosis,

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what

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would you tell yourself at

the beginning of the trial?

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Nicole: the I would tell

myself, it'll be okay.

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And that is now, my family

knows, that's my mantra now.

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To anything I always say, and I

started it in that trial because I

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always told the kids when we were

worried about something,, I would say.

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But it'll be okay.

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And then we would say we know why, right?

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Because no matter what Jesus

is going to be with us.

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He's going to help us.

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We don't know what it's going

to look like, but it'll be okay.

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And so I wish I would know

that at the very beginning,

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but the Lord grew that in me.

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And so now we all laugh about it

because I'll say it all the time.

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I'll be like, if something I have,

I'll be like, it'll be okay.

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It'll be okay.

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And it will be okay.

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And when you go through.

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These deep valleys, the things in

life, really, it'll all be okay really,

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because we've already been through it.

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And not that I won't be through

it again, because I might.

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And we don't know what the Lord has

for me, but I know that we're going

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to be okay because of Jesus, right?

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Stephanie: Sometimes I think when you're

going through the heaviness, it's almost

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like the Lord gives you the grace to

handle the big thing, but then the small

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thing, the cabinet falling off of the

door or something sets you off, and

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you're like, I can't handle this too.

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Nicole: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Stephanie: Was there anything else

that you wanted to share that

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you feel would minister to women

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? Nicole: I would just say one thing the

Lord impressed upon me and he was gracious

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to allow it is that with all the changes

with the kids, One of the things I asked

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the Lord, and I really determined to

do it to the best of my ability, was to

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be steady and to keep things constant.

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And so that way my children

would have some stability.

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So I was like, we're not, we

could have moved and might have.

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In hindsight, without marrying Dale

probably in time would have had to move.

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But I wanted to keep them in their

home, in their school, in their youth

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group, and I tried to be steady and

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unflustered, unflappable

in this so they feel safe.

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I just wanted to create a safe place

for the kids to grow up and feel safe.

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feel okay, all these things were

chaotic, but we have some things, the

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Lord, our school, our church, our home.

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And so I know not everybody

may be able to do that.

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But there are always things that you can

say, these are going to be a constant

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things, whatever it is, maybe we're

in a different home, but we're going

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to still read the same devotionals and

we're going to have our same routines.

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Are gonna be the same or whatever it

is to keep that consistency for kids.

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Stephanie: think that I've grown

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Nicole: in this season?

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I think that I've grown into that.

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I don't think that I was always like that.

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I think my temperament is somewhat

steadfast, but I think when I was

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younger, I was a little bit more on

that rollercoaster and the Lord had

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to train me, like literally train me

to be like no, we're not going ahead.

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We are not going to worry about tomorrow.

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That's another one of my verses.

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We are not going to worry about tomorrow.

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is enough worries of Nicole,

this is where we are today.

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You're, you can't, because you can't

let your mind go into all those places

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that then you're going to be in fear

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So I do think the Lord has trained

me in steadfastness and gentleness.

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I, I think praise the

Lord that He works on us,

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Right.

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Stephanie: Absolutely.

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And how else can you make

beauty from like that?

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Only he does that, such

a devastating situation.

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Nicole: Yeah.

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so hard.

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Stephanie: What were some

healthy ways that you

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taught your kids or yourself to take

their sadness to lament because it is

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healthy to grieve and that is biblical.

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Nicole: Yes.

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In our house, we just have a lot

of really open conversations.

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And so we talk about everything.

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And as things would have it, like

when something, would remind me of

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Jim or their dad, we would talk about

it and I'd be like, remember this?

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And then they would talk about it.

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And sometimes that would be a

happy thing and sometimes it

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would lead to them being sad.

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And I'd be like, that's okay.

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That's okay.

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We feel sad right now.

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Another thing, Elizabeth reminded

me of this today as I had them

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on his first birthday in heaven.

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They wrote a card and a note to their

dad and we just put it away for him.

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And we did little things to

celebrate his birthday together.

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So I think.

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Open, open communication, and a

little bit of that journaling.

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Our soul care people.

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The lady, Miss Jackie, had Elizabeth

make a scrapbook about her family and her

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dad, and that really helped her process.

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Michael did some other things

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But yeah, it was, I think that

was a really tangible thing that

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she still has to look back on

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Stephanie: because so much of it is,

You're wanting to keep the memory

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alive, of the person you lost.

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Nicole: And praise the Lord Dale

is really sweet about it too.

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He does not feel any awkwardness when we

talk about Jim and things like that, sure.

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So that's good.

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Amidst the heaviness of this topic, I

hope you can see how God was faithful.

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If you're looking to meet with a God

who longs to dwell with you, I encourage

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you to check out our other podcast, the

Dwelling Place Bible Plan for Busy Moms,

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so you can hear from his word every day.

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We know you're busy, mama.

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So we are truly grateful you joined us for

this episode of again, if you're looking

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for more information about building your

home on the foundation of Jesus Christ,

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head to www dot Entrusted Ministries

dot com to learn more about our study

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for moms Entrusted with a child's Heart.

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This scripture saturated study

has blessed families around the

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world, and we want it for you too.

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Before you go, I want to pray this

benediction over you from Second

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Thessalonians one 11 through 12.

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We're rooting for you to this end.

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We always pray for you that our God

may make you worthy of his calling

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and fulfill every resolve for good.

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And every work of faith by his power

so that the name of our Lord Jesus

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may be glorified in you and you

and Him according to the grace of

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our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

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Amen.

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Until we meet again.

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Stephanie Hickox

Stephanie has always delighted in God’s Word and in sharing it with others. Whether it is equipping mothers and leaders through Entrusted with a Child’s Heart, inspiring students when teaching at homeschool co-ops or children’s ministry, or homeschooling her own children, Stephanie’s life mission is to encourage others to follow faithfully and joyfully after Jesus—especially if they hold her favorite job title: mom.

Betsy Corning wrote Entrusted with a Child’s Heart in 1999 in response to the needs she saw in families as she and David counseled young parents just a few years behind them. Entrusted has been taught in hundreds of churches nationwide, been translated into several foreign languages, and has made its way around the world. More recently, Betsy received her Masters in Biblical Studies from The Master’s University and is developing a new Bible Study program called Get the Word Out. Her passion for God’s Word, discipleship, and teaching biblical principles as they apply to family life has remained strong to this day. One of the greatest blessings in Betsy’s life are her three grown children, their spouses, and ten grandchildren that keep her constantly in touch with every age and stage.

Jen Freckman Is an incredible wealth of wisdom. She will tell you a natural remedy for just about anything! She is also a voracious reader and she is just overflowing with quotes and guidance that she's encountered through reading and being faithful. She delights in her children and is a devoted mother. She is also an amazingly creative problem solver! Her solutions to manage her home and guide her children are inspiring.

Emily Deyo is such a treasure. She is an incredible encourager and servant-hearted woman. When she has the mic in front of her, so much value comes out! She is a wordsmith and her heart consistently beats for how she can encourage and serve others. She is a truly loving and attentive mother.

Join Betsy, Emily, Jen, and Stephanie as they share the wisdom only Scripture and on-the-job training can provide to help untangle the joyful calling of motherhood.