#117. SNEAK PEEK: COUPLES LESSON #1: Teaching Kids About Jesus | A Gospel-Centered Parenting Conversation

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Welcome to the Again Podcast from Entrusted Ministries.

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I'm Stephanie Hickox, and I

wanna say congratulations, mama.

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You made it through another May.

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Whether you're wrapping up an academic

school year or you've felt cooped

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inside with babies and toddlers

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for what feels like forever.

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I hope that this summer has lots of joy

and relaxation on the horizon for you.

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Today, I'm giving you a sneak peek into

lesson one of our Entrusted videos.

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These go along with our book for couples

which has the same principles as the moms'

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study in Trusted With a Child's Heart.

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We call it our book for couples, but

really it can be used by individuals,

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by home groups, church groups,

groups of men, groups of women.

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There are so many opportunities.

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I have several friends that actually buy

these books for every baby shower they

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attend, as they believe it's the most

important parenting book you could own

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And we recently recorded these videos

because we wanted moms and dads to have

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videos to guide them through the book.

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And to gain access to the entire

series, all you have to do is purchase

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the book, which is reasonably priced

at $20, and then we give you this

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little bookmark that has the QR code

to stream all the videos for free.

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We really want to equip and your spouse to

follow God's Word in your parenting, and

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ultimately, we want people to come to know

the Lord Jesus Christ as their Savior.

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So we hope today's clear bridge

illustration can equip you

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for how you can clearly share

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the gospel with your children and

anyone else God puts in your path

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, Speaker: Let's talk about chapter

one, our foundation, faith in Jesus.

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I was rereading Paul Tripp's parenting

book recently, and it's so in line with

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the heart of Entrusted, and I loved this

quote, "Good parenting, which does what

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God intended it to do, begins with the

radical and humbling admission that our

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children don't actually belong to us."

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Aunt Betsy, can you explain what

does it mean to be entrusted?

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Speaker 2: I think it means to

understand that your children

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don't really belong to you.

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They've been entrusted to you by God,

which, uh, absolutely is an absolute

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precious and special privilege,

but we don't look at our children

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as our own in the sense that I get

to do with you whatever I want.

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Speaker: Mm-hmm.

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Speaker 2: I get to raise you however I

want, because God has given them to us

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for a purpose, and that is to fulfill his

purpose of raising true worshipers of God.

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Speaker: Mm.

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Speaker 2: Children aren't ours.

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Uh, they are the Lord's.

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Speaker: Mm-hmm.

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Speaker 2: So we're being the

best stewards of them that we can.

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Speaker: And there's incredible

freedom in that, when we know that

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we're working with the Lord, onto Him.

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It's not all on our shoulders, right?

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Speaker 2: Yes, definitely.

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So what a relief it is to know

that God's in this with us.

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Speaker: Mm-hmm.

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Speaker 2: And when we follow His

ways, you know, He, He honors that.

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He blesses that.

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Speaker: You've subtitled every chapter,

"Godly parents do this," and chapter

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one, it's, "Godly parents embrace

Jesus as their Lord and Savior."

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Some people might hear that and

feel, "I don't know if I'm worthy

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of that title, godly parent."

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Can you explain why you've

chosen those subtitles?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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It's not really us, ourselves,

that have the capacity to be godly.

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I mean, we are obedient unto the

Lord, but it's saying that we are

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declaring our dependence upon Him to

be able to do the things that He's

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calling us to do in our families.

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So godly parents means we're

aligning with the Lord in this task.

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A godly parent in that s- situation

declares that Jesus is Lord and

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Savior of their, their lives.

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Because if we don't have that

first foundational piece-

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Speaker: Mm-hmm

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… Speaker 2: our families are gonna

struggle, as Psalm 127:1 said, which

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is, "Unless the Lord builds the house,

they labor in vain who build it."

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When I've talked to women, you

know, how sad would it be to say

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that we raised our children for 20

years, and we did it all in vain?

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Mm.

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That would be so heartbreaking.

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But the Lord says, "No, I, I'm going to

give you my manual, my handy book of the

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Bible," which really isn't about us, but

it's how to live in fellowship with Him

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as He intended from the very beginning.

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Speaker: Mm-hmm.

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Speaker 2: And David will get into

that a little bit, but I think

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that's, uh, some important things

to understand from the beginning.

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Speaker: Uncle David, can you speak to the

people that are listening to this saying,

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"I didn't have people pouring into me.

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I wasn't discipled.

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I didn't understand these Biblical truths.

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Was I parenting in vain?

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Is it too late to start now?"

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Speaker 3: Well, the answer to that

would be no, it's not too late.

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It's never too late.

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I just have to say this carefully, but- I

don't know of a more important role that a

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father could have in his children's lives,

and there's probably no one on the face

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of the earth that could impact them the

way their own father could impact them.

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So if you started with them really

early, or if you're just s- wanting

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to do something now, get in the game.

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Speaker: Hmm.

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Speaker 3: Uh, get involved.

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Um, be with your kids.

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Look them in the eye.

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Ask them the questions

that need to be asked.

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Get off the superficial and into the

things that really matter in their life.

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So no, I, I would say that

it's never, never too late.

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God can bring anyone out of any given

situation, uh, and use it for His

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glory, and He often does use it for

His glory in the worst of situations

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'cause he, He just turns people's lives.

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He can turn a father's life around

who's been neglecting his family

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possibly, or He can obviously do

that with the child through, uh,

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the father's ministry to them.

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Speaker 2: And I think a mother's heart

and a father's heart- Mm-hmm … is to

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never, ever give up on their children.

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And I know that I've talked in other

s- situations, in other lessons, about

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how at a certain point of life, your

prayer life becomes really, really

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ignited, and I would say that's in your

older years when you see the absolute

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importance of these things and you're

praying for the spiritual foundation

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of your children and grandchildren.

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Speaker: Mm-hmm.

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Speaker 2: Um, and new marriages

being formed in your family.

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You know, a lot of people say, "I don't

have a strong p- prayer life," but

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I would say that if you're following

the Lord, you will- Mm-hmm … if

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you, uh- Have a heart for your family.

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And there's a verse from First, uh, 3

John 4 that says, "I have no greater

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motivation than this, than to hear

that my children walk in the truth."

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That will be no more true than when

you're older and you've seen how

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a lot of things have played out.

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And we don't want to live with regret,

but we don't feel like it's all on us.

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We do our best.

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We do our best, and we trust

the Lord with the rest.

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And we also know that our children have

a responsibility in these things, too.

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Speaker: I really like how you

clarify that idea in the mom study,

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that as parents we're called to

evangelize and edify, and God's

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part is to save and to sanctify.

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And when we realize that, we,

we can be faithful and diligent,

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but the Lord's drawing him.

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He's faithful to draw our children.

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And with that, Uncle David, will you

share the bridge gospel illustration

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that I've seen you share m- many

times, and I know you're just

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You always have this ready- Mm … for

wherever the Lord would give you an

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opportunity, you're ready to proclaim

Jesus Christ as the only answer.

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Speaker 3: This is the foundation that

I think the Lord is, I know the Lord is

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talking about in 1 Corinthians 3:11 where

He says, "There's no foundation other than

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which is laid, which is Jesus Christ."

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And so the Gospel is the foundation

of my life, it's the foundation of

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my family, it's the foundation of

my marriage, it's the foundation

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of everything I have and hope for.

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There's many ways to, to

share the Gospel with people.

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Um, this was a way that I was taught

how to do it about 50 years ago.

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Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.

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Speaker 3: I always loved it

because it kind of takes the Bible,

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and it starts you in Genesis, and

it finishes you in Revelation.

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And it's a kind of a summary

of what the Bible is all about.

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And of course, the Old Testament

points to Jesus, the New

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Testament points back at Him.

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It's all about Jesus Christ.

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If you miss that, you can memorize that

all the kings in the Old Testament, you

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can know all the a- apostles in the New

Testament, you can know a whole bunch

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of facts, but if you miss that Jesus

Christ is who He is, you missed it.

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So it starts out with Genesis

1:27, where he says, "God

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created man in His own image.

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In His own image He created them.

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Male and female He created them."

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Right there- We see that God created

humans, men and women, in his own image.

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We are different than any

other part of God's creation.

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We're, we're, we were created

to have a relationship with God.

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If you look at Genesis 1 and 2,

you see God is walking and talking

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with Adam and Eve in the garden.

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They had a relationship.

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They knew his voice.

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He knew their voice.

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They had a relationship.

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They're different.

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They were different than

trees and plants and animals.

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All of God's creation is wonderful,

but people are very, very unique

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because of the way God created them.

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But then, obviously, problems began

in Genesis chapter 3, and there's a

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universal truth in Isaiah 59:2 which

says, "But your iniquities have caused

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a separation between you and your

God, and your sins have hidden his

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face from you, so he no longer hears."

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Well, uh-oh, what happened

to my relationship?

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It- it's, it's been severed.

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It's been severed by something

called iniquity or sin, and God

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will not even … If I, if I try

to talk to him, he turns his face.

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Well, that's a picture

of a broken relationship.

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So now I really have to get specific about

what really is my problem, and it starts

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in Romans 3:23, "For all have sinned

and fall short of the glory of God."

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So I'm a sinner according to the

Bible, not accord- Some people

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won't admit that they're a sinner,

but I say, "God, you're right.

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I am a sinner, for all have sinned

and fall short of the glory of God."

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There's no one on the face of

this earth who is not a sinner.

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So then the next question is,

well, what does sin result in?

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"For the wages," in Romans 6:23

it says, "For the wages of sin

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is death, but the gift of God is

eternal life through Christ Jesus."

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What is the result of my sin?

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I like to, the focus on the word wage.

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Well, when you get a wage,

you've earned something.

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You deserve something.

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I deserve to die because of my sin.

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That's the wage that I've earned.

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Well, that's getting

pretty negative, isn't it?

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It's, uh, I'm a sinner,

and now I'm gonna die.

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And then the next thing that's even

worse is, what happens after I die?

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In Hebrews 9:27, it says, "Inasmuch

as it is appointed for men to die

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once, after this comes judgment."

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Well, I'm going to be judged and condemned

for everything I've ever done wrong for

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all of eternity in a place called hell.

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That is bad news.

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But you know, I really have to, anyone

really needs to focus on that because

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if you don't understand your problem,

you'll never find the solution.

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So, so that's my problem.

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I'm a sinner, I'm gonna die,

and I'm gonna be condemned.

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But now God has a response to that.

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John 5:24, he says, "Truly, truly…"

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Anytime he says truly,

truly, pay attention.

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"Truly, truly, I say to you, he

who hears my word and believes

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Him who sent me has eternal life.

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He does not come into judgment,

but is passed from death to life."

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So basically, God, right there,

says three things: eternal life, no

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judgment, passed from death to life.

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He's addressed my problem

But you have to believe.

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So how do I get from where I am

over here with my problem to over

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here with, with how God responds

to my problem in John 5:24?

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Well, a lot of people got a lot

of different ideas about that, and

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we need to take the next passage

of scripture is Ephesians 2:8-9.

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"For by grace you have

been saved through faith.

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It's a gift of God, not as a result

of works, lest anyone should boast."

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So it's by grace.

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Grace is undeserved favor.

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Okay, I already know what I deserve.

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Please don't give me that.

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I need God's grace through faith.

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Okay, faith.

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What's faith?

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Well, faith is, I believe, and, uh,

there's a lot of good definitions.

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Hebrews 1, uh, 11:6 is really

a good one, but, and 11:1 too.

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But nevertheless, faith is

confidence properly placed.

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Who am I depending on?

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Who am I counting on?

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And whoever you put your faith in, it

better be in the right place because

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it, there's only one way you can be

saved, and that is really brought out

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by the next verse, which is John 14:6.

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"Jesus said to them, 'I am the

way, the truth, and the life.

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No one comes to the

Father but through me.'"

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So you need to put your faith

in Jesus Christ because He's

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the only one able to save you.

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He's the only one able to deliver you

from your sin and forgive your sin.

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So that brings us into our next

verse, which is 1 Peter 3:18.

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"But Christ died for sins once for

all, the righteous for the unrighteous,

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that he might bring us to God,

because he was put to death in the

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flesh but made alive in the Spirit."

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That passage of scripture is so

powerful 'cause it says so much.

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The righteous Jesus Christ in my place

for the unrighteous, me, the sinner who

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deserves to die and to be condemned.

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He went to the cross in order that

He might take me from that position

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across that sin chasm that, that's been

e- that, that e- that exists because

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of my broken relationship with God,

and makes me have hope for salvation.

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And the reason that I have hope for

salvation is because He rose from

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the dead, and that's the power.

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You, you put your faith in

somebody who won't let you down.

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So Jesus, if He didn't rise from the dead,

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we're kinda stuck.

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But he did.

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He's got power over life.

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He's got power over death.

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He has the power to forgive sin.

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The next verse that I, that

I, that comes in the, in the

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illustration is Romans 10:9.

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"If we confess with our mouth that

Jesus Christ is Lord, and we believe

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in our hearts that God raised him

from the dead, you will be saved."

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S- so what do I need?

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I need to confess and I need to believe.

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Confess simply means, "God, you're right."

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I'm a sinner.

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I was created to have a relationship

with you, but you, but I fell,

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and I have a sin problem.

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You're right, and that's gonna cause

me to die and eventually be condemned.

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But I know what you said over here.

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You told me that I could have eternal

life and I could pass from death to life,

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and that there would be no judgment.

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So yes, thank you.

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You're right.

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You're right.

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I agree with you, and it's by faith and

through, through, through your grace

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that I could possibly hope for salvation.

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So I confess it with my mouth

and I believe it in my heart.

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Now, believe is much more

than just knowing something.

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Believe is acting upon what I say is true.

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So if there's sin in my life that I'm

aware of and I need to start working on,

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because I need to work on it for the rest

of my life, but nevertheless, I work on

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the things that God wants me to work on

so I can become more and more like Jesus.

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And that is this process that we have

to get involved in, uh, right away.

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And he will deliver us, and that's

the place, and that's the real belief.

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And, you know, the Bible talks a

lot about repentance, and you could

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almost use believe and repentance

hand-in-hand in that situation.

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So then, I'm almost done, uh,

then you come to 1 John 5:11-12.

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"And this is the testimony, that

God has given us eternal life.

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This life is in his Son.

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He who has the Son has life.

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He who does not have the Son

of God does not have life."

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So you either have it or you don't.

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I, I like to, make this verse cause a

crisis in someone's life because you're

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not, "Well, maybe I'm a Christian," or, "I

think I'm getting there," or, "I'm," you

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know, "I'm kinda halfway in the middle."

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No.

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You're, you're not halfway anywhere.

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You're either perfectly lost or

you're perfectly saved, depending

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on what you have done with Jesus.

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Have you humbled yourself?

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Have you expressed your faith and your

need of him to be your savior and Lord?

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If you've done that, you have Christ.

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If you haven't done that, you don't have

Christ, and you're stuck over here with

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your sin, the death that that will bring,

and the condemnation that that will bring.

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So it's either one or the other.

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The last verse is, I started in

Genesis, I'm finishing in Revelation.

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Revelation 3:20, where Jesus says,

"Behold, I stand at the door and knock.

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If anyone hears my voice and opens

the door, I will come in to him

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and dine with him, and he with me."

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Now, what's that?

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That's a picture.

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That's a picture of a relationship

Because God is sitting at a table with

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you, dining with you, back and forth.

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He's not turning his face

from you so he doesn't hear.

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He's looking right at you.

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He's talking with you.

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You have a restored relationship.

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So Jesus Christ has repaired what we

lost in Isaiah 59:2, that we, where that

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relationship was broken, Jesus put it back

together so we have the Genesis 1:27 thing

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again, where we have the, we were created

to have a relationship with God, and Jesus

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Christ has made that possible through his

des- death, resurrection on the cross.

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And so really we have now three

things that we could possibly do.

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The first thing we can do is

say, "That's kind of stupid.

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I reject that."

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"Well, I don't think it's stupid.

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I think I should think

about it, but not right now.

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I'll just put it off."

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Really, the first two are one and the

same, because you either have Christ or

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you don't, and if you do either one of

those things, you do not have Christ.

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Or you can repent.

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You can turn from your sin.

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You can put your trust and hope in Jesus

Christ alone, and he will be your savior.

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So what are you gonna do with that?

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Are you gonna come to Christ?

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Are you going to humble yourself

and embrace your savior?

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So that would be the foundation of

everything that we, that Entrusted

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is about, that parenting is about,

is, that your marriage is about.

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All these things are built on the

foundation of the gospel message.

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And that's, like I said,

it's not the only way.

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It's just one way of presenting

what the Bible has to say

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about, uh, how to be saved.

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Speaker: Mm-hmm.

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Such a fantastic summary of the heart of

God to restore our relationship with him.

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Mm-hmm.

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That he is a God that dwells

and walks with his people,

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would you close this lesson in prayer-

Mm-hmm … for the parent that's sitting

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here listening and saying, "I need that"?

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Speaker 3: Heavenly Father, uh, Lord,

if, uh, someone is listening to this-

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And has not come to know Jesus Christ.

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Father, it's not my words, it's your word.

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Your word is living and active.

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It's sharper than any two-edged sword.

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It pierces between joint and marrow.

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It's able to judge the thoughts

and intentions of the heart.

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Father, I pray that you would open

people's eyes, that they would

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see who Jesus Christ is, and they

would see and understand their

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need for him, and they would simply

reach out and say, "Lord, save me.

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I believe in you.

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I trust you.

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I want you to be a part of my life.

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I want you to be my life, my hope."

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So Lord, thank you, uh, for the work that

you're going to do in each person's life.

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Father, I thank you that you are

sovereign God, and I pray and…

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that you would use, um, maybe even

this little simple gospel presentation

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to save someone's life, and it's

in your for the power to do that.

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In Jesus' name we pray, amen

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Speaker 69: Next week, I'll be releasing

an interview I did with Chris McKenna

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the founder and CEO of Protect Young Eyes.

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If you've ever been overwhelmed,

intimidated, , or defeated as you've

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thought about technology and how to

protect your kids, Chris is the man

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that God has equipped to lead us wisely.

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He's written a new book Five Habits

of the Tech-Ready Family: Raising

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Wise Kids in a Wild Digital World It

is phenomenal, and I was honored to sit

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down with him and hear more of his heart

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For helping us walk in this area of

life victoriously We're gonna be having

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a giveaway so we can help promote the

wisdom and clarity from his latest book

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make sure you stay tuned for

those details, both on our

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Facebook and Instagram pages

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Here on the Again podcast and

on The Dwelling Place podcast.

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And speaking of The Dwelling Place,

as you're heading into summer, I

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hope it's at the top of your list

to stay faithful in God's Word

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And I think that The Dwelling

Place could help you do just that