Episode 94

#92. How Do I Talk to My Kids about Gender Roles and Differences? An Interview with Biblical Counselors Krista and Bryan Ryndak | Part 2

***This episode briefly mentions some delicate topics. You may not want to have younger children listen with you.

This is a hot topic in Christian circles, in culture, and in the news, but what does God actually say about what it means to be a man or a woman? And even when we understand it... how do we talk to our kids about it?!? Does the church need to adjust to meet different genders? How do we talk to our children about pornography and intimacy? Bryan and Krista of So That We, a biblical counseling practice, bring clarity to this truly important topic. Christian parents will receive practical wisdom for themselves, their marriages, their parenting, and for their witness to the watching world.

Be sure to listen to part 1 of this conversation!

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Stephanie:

They're the joyful agains our children.

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Shout on the swings, the exhausting

agains of cooking and laundry and

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the difficult agains of discipline.

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So much of what we do

as mothers is on repeat.

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So what if we woke up with clarity,

knowing which agains we were called to.

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And went to bed believing we are

faithful in what matters most.

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We believe God's word is

the key to untangle from the

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confusion and overwhelm we feel.

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Let's look up together to embrace a

motherhood full of freedom and joy.

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This is the Again podcast brought

to you by Entrusted Ministries and

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I'm your host, Stephanie Hickox.

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Today you're going to hear part two of

an incredibly insightful conversation

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with biblical counselors, Krista and

Brian Rin deck of so that we counseling.

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They're a phenomenal husband and

wife duo, and the truth that they

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speak is practical and relevant.

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you're going to hear a wealth

of experience and wisdom.

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it's thought provoking, and it

targets the deepest fears that

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many Christian parents have today.

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What do we do?

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When do, do?

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I really believe you'll walk away from

this portion of the conversation feeling

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comforted and hopeful, gaining direction

on how to move forward in a healthy,

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godly way to equip your children but

also for how you can move forward in

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biblical truth with your spouse and with

other believers in the body of Christ.

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If you haven't listened to part one, of

course we want you to head there first.

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I'll link that in the show notes.

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While we're on the subject of dynamic

duos, I need to remind you that our

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videos for couples have been recorded.

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we have video recaps for the couples

book Entrusted with a child's heart,

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currently, we feel led to offer these.

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As a free bonus with a book so we can

give hope and encouragement to couples

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learning at home together, or even

small groups or for church events.

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Betsy and David Corning

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have decades of wisdom and

encouragement to offer.

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I cannot recommend this series

highly enough, and I'll link

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that in the notes as well.

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And now we'll continue with

our conversation on biblical

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manhood and biblical womanhood.

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How do we train our children to

embrace their God-given identity

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and not succumb to the lies the

culture is speaking about gender?

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Krista/Bryan: Yeah, that's such a

great and really important question.

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I would say it's really important

for parents obviously, to continue

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to teach biblical truth of what God

says about manhood and womanhood.

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But I think it's also really important

to teach about what the world is

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saying in age appropriate ways.

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I see a lot

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of

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parents who shy away from

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that.

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But their kids and teenagers

are coming into my counseling

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office really confused because.

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They are having teaching on maybe

what it means to be male or female.

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But sometimes

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that teaching is occurring in

a way that's really legalistic.

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It's actually brought

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the stereotypes into the

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discussions,

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and they've really

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had

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no

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teaching

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about the lies

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that, that,

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they're hearing and

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how

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to parse those

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out

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in

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their

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minds.

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parent

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might

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say, this is what the Bible

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says.

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This

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is

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what the truth

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is.

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But if they don't leave

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space for conversations, if they don't

leave space for their kid to ask questions

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about the things that are confusing, then

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it,

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that kid is

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more susceptible to the lies of the world.

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Or, sometimes

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outta fear,

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parents actually

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overly stereotype

masculinity and femininity.

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right?

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Our

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classic examples

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that we

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often talk

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about

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are

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like

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the girl who's

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a

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tomboy, right?

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What

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does it mean to

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be

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a

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tomboy

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or

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the

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boy

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who's

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like a little bit more sensitive?

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We know those kids do end up a

little bit more prone to question

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gender identity because of the

culture that they're growing

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up

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in.

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So for example, if a mom

is, really in the home.

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Maybe she's wears

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floral dresses and things like that,

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but

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she

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has

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a daughter

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who says,

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well, I, I

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don't really like dresses.

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I

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like

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to

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play sports.

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I

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like to

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wear jeans.

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If she's not

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being taught

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about the lives of

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the culture, she really can

begin to say, well, am I

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really

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a woman?

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If

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this

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is what a woman

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is?

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I don't feel like that's me,

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am I a

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woman?

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Does embracing womanhood for her

mean I could never be myself.

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I could never

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be who

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I feel

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like

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I authentically am.

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Right?

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So it's really important for parents to be

able to help their kids understand, like

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in the case of this

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daughter,

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you

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can

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like

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sports, you can like jeans,

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and

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you can still be female.

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There's still ways

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that God has still

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called you into womanhood.

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might

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be okay to

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talk

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about, can

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you consider

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a career?

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Can you

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balance that with

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having

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a

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family?

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And if

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that's never

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been modeled for her, those are natural

questions that she's gonna have that make

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her more susceptible to a culture that

says you don't have to change yourself.

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You can fit

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in

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exactly where

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you

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are.

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Right there, There's a

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place where

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we can plug

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you

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in.

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I think

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important for parents to understand.

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You don't wanna only have the conversation

about this is what God's word says.

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You wanna be able to present

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all

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of that spectrum

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for them and help them find

what masculinity and femininity

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means for them as they're

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growing

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up.

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I think one thing I see maybe more so

with guys even than women is a lot of

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these things being done out of fear,

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right?

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Right?

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Yeah.

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And I'm sure fear exists in women as

well, but for guys, there's, there seems

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to be a lot of fear of, well, my, my boys

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Stephanie: sensitive.

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So

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Krista/Bryan: afraid

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that he is going to be something.

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Yes.

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And then so they maybe overreact or

they really drive towards a certain

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caricature of, masculinity or manhood.

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It's not wrong to teach masculinity and

manhood, but avoid the caricature Right.

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Of, of that, per se.

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There's a podcast, I think

it's the Warrior Poet Society

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or something like that.

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But the phrase warrior poet

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I love

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and actually when you heard it mm-hmm.

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krista, you are like,

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whoa,

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that's

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awesome.

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I grab onto that.

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But David

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Stephanie: being

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the

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example,

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Krista/Bryan: Right.

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He was a Warriors after God's

heart, but yet he was also a poet.

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Yeah.

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And a musician, if I'm

remembering my Bible very well.

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Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, So those things coexist and they

can, and as a man, we have to be

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comfortable with how they coexist in

order to teach our young boys mm-hmm.

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how they can

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mm-hmm.

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So from that young man who's

sensitive, it's like, well,

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this is a great opportunity to,

to teach emotional regulation.

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Which on both ends of the

spectrum need to be done.

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Anger versus, you know,

sadness or passivity.

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Mm-hmm.

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Well, I'm gonna borrow

your language, kind of, you

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put No, you

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can't.

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Yeah.

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You put some better language

to what I was trying to, to say

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Stephanie: coexist,

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right.

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Mm-hmm.

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Krista/Bryan: To

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say that

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girl can

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have sort of

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a spunky personality or , she

can be a little bit more,

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athletic or outgoing

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or

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things like

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that,

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she can still be a woman.

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that

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side of her

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personality can still coexist

with learning to be that

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submissive woman, right?

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Or, grow up into a wife who can

be confident and secure in who she

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is, and yet understand how to be

submissive and engage with her husband.

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So I like your word there, coexist.

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I'm Thinking another piece of this

conversation that seems important in

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like how we're teaching our children

about identity and not succumbing

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to the lives of the culture,

actually, is about teaching about

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sexuality

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and owning those conversations.

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I think a lot of Christian

parents, because they're wanting to

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protect

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their

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kids,

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right?

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we want them to be innocent of evil and

keep them innocent as long as they can be.

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can

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lead parents into a place

where they're actually

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naive, right?

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Mm-hmm.

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they're

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not having the conversations as

early as perhaps they need to be.

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And so culture is

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then owning those conversations for them.

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The kids are being exposed at school

or with cousins or in the media

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to

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questions.

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mom and dad

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have

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not started to have

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honest sexuality conversations, even

questions come up about pornography,

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about

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gender

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identity,

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about

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masturbation,

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right?

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about

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it

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younger

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in

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an

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effort to

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protect, I'm

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seeing Christian parents sometimes

not own those conversations, not

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courageously have those conversations.

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So the confusion in their kids'

mind might have begun two or three

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years before they even, think that

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could be planted

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there.

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So to be courageous don't assume

that just because you're trying

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to

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protect your child,

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they're actually protected.

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yeah.

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The word protection comes to mind.

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As far as the four pillars, the way

I see it of masculinity and one of

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the aspects of protection is of your

children, of your wife but specifically

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in this context of your children, what

are we protecting them from lies, right?

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Right.

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We're protecting them from

misinformation to use an overused term.

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We're protecting them from themselves

at times but not out of fear.

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What we're trying to do is

protect them in a biblical sense.

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Mm-hmm.

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Stephanie: Mm-hmm.

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Krista/Bryan: They're gonna be influenced

by everything as you mentioned.

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And they will seek information.

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And we, I like the way you put that,

Krista was, own the conversation.

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You dictate the conversation.

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Right.

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Right.

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You initiate the conversation,

have it first, and have it

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confidently have it first.

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Have it often have it confidently.

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Yeah.

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And men you're not absolved

from this conversation.

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How many times do we put

off all that stuff to

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Stephanie: mom?

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true.

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My

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Krista/Bryan: mom,

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do it.

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I'm too uncomfortable.

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I think what we're really saying

is I haven't figured it out myself.

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Sometimes.

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Especially if we're talking about

some of the more serious things

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like porn and things like that.

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You don't have to have it all figured

out to start guiding, putting parameters

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up for your sons specifically, but for

both, both your sons and your daughters.

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I guess the idea here is maybe the

word channeling is good, right?

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And so if we're talking about maybe

sexuality conversations, but really

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with everything for men to boys

channeling, what do we do with our anger?

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What do we do with our sexual drive?

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What do we do with our stupidity

when we see that good looking girl

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the

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first time, and we can't

formulate a sentence.

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Mm-hmm.

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How do we treat mom?

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How do we treat women?

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How do we treat other men?

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How do we act, channeling all

these masculine tendencies,

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every stick is a weapon.

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How do we channel

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that?

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And that's a heavy responsibility

for guys and women are involved in

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that too, but man to boy, it's huge.

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That's really good.

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I'm thinking also about like the

people that we surround our kids with

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that are influencing them as well.

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And the importance of the different

environments that we have them in.

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And getting curious about too.

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Some of the

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that

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see

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coming out.

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Again, fear.

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You mentioned fear, like

fear related things.

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In the counseling office, people

come in and they're really upset

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'cause their kid is wanting to

try a certain clothing style.

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Or a certain hairstyle

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or things

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like that

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that

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maybe

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have

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a cultural representation what they mean.

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Mm-hmm.

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So maybe

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my daughter

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wants to cut her hair in a

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style

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that

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think

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like

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a

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boy.

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so a mom will immediately react

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and assume

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that

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means something.

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Assume this means this

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kid

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wanting

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make

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a, choice down a path that

mom doesn't want her to

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go in.

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Instead of say be really curious.

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Start like, why are they

wanting their hair cut this way?

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Are they trying to emulate

a certain online influencer?

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Stephanie: What's

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Krista/Bryan: to you

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Stephanie: about that?

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Krista/Bryan: So

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instead of being reactive

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Stephanie: be

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Krista/Bryan: be curious.

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Ask questions that help you shepherd

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the heart

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that's underneath.

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And not just reacting to

maybe the superficial things

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that you see on the outside.

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Is this just a normal

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Stephanie: childhood

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Krista/Bryan: or is there

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really

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Stephanie: something deeper?

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If I'm

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reacting to

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it, like

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Krista/Bryan: it's some really big

deal, sometimes a kid is gonna grasp

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Stephanie: onto that

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Krista/Bryan: more.

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That it's, you know,

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Stephanie: Oh,

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that

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a reaction

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Krista/Bryan: of mom

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and dad,

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So it

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must mean

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Stephanie: They're

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Krista/Bryan: a value

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Stephanie: to

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it

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Krista/Bryan: that we're

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not intending for them

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to assign.

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Stephanie: I am thinking about

a personal example when my.

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Boys were little and I had a baby girl.

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They saw her get a ton of attention.

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then, and they did not

realize that you got that much

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attention when you were a baby

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too.

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Right?

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Right.

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And then also they had two

grandfathers pass away very quickly.

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So those were some circumstances

that happened in our life.

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Well then all of a sudden one of my boys

started saying, I wish I were a girl.

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I wish I were a girl.

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Krista/Bryan: the,

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Stephanie: retching.

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But then as I prayed about it, I'm

like, Lord, will you help me understand?

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And so we would have these

conversations, what do you mean by that?

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And I realized, first of all, he

thought girls get more attention.

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And then secondly, he

thought, men die early.

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Krista/Bryan: I would rather

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Stephanie: a girl.

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And in his tiny little

mind that made sense.

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And then I was able to

talk through those things.

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And then all of a sudden when

I heard him say that thing, it

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didn't bother me internally.

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I wasn't afraid.

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I wasn't trying to control it.

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I was trying to help continue

enlighten him in the truth.

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Yes.

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And say, actually sweetheart,

that's what happened in our family.

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But let me tell you, you

know, there are other stories.

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Or look at great grandpa.

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He's 92 and he's going strong.

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And then to talk to him about, yes.

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Let me show you some pictures of you when

you were a baby and how much attention you

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got and how I loved that time with you.

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I'm just so thankful that as

I prayed, the Lord led me.

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That's not the root of it.

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Get to the root.

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Krista/Bryan: Right?

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That's a great example.

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Exactly what we're talking about.

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Try to get to the root and don't

just react to what you think,

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what's your greatest fear?

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They're gonna become this or that, or

they're gonna do this or that thing.

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Don't assume that's what's happening.

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That's really good.

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In an effort to lead sometimes

guys, we miss the curiosity part.

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And we go right to a phrase like, no,

son of mine is going to da, da da.

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No daughter of mine is

going to do, do, do.

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And instead of going there

first, this idea of prayer and

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self-examination, curiosity.

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:

Yeah.

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What is really underneath this?

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Is it I think that example, we had

an example the idea that if a boy

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wants to take dance class right?

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And so instead of the reaction of, well,

no son of mine is gonna take dance class.

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What are we really concerned about?

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Yeah.

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What, being curious about

what are our fears in that

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Stephanie: Mm-hmm.

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Krista/Bryan: Is it the dance

that we're really worried

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about or is it the potential.

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Environment or the agenda that is often

present, not always, but often present in

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certain environments, certain activities.

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So can we delineate between the

activity not being a problem versus

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the environment that they're in, the

influences that might be under and does

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that change our conversation with them?

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Does that change our reaction?

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Does that change our decision?

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Does it give us validation

for the decision,

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Stephanie: Yeah, I think that's

excellent not just be curious about

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their heart and their intention with

it and their motives, but also our own.

555

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That's a fantastic point.

556

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So what do you think the church should

do to break free from stereotyping,

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genders or to avoid these ditches

as you've said, and appeal to

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a broader range of believers?

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Krista/Bryan: I think That's

a good question for Brian.

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He thinks a lot

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about the church.

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Think a

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lot about

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men

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in

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church.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Maybe so if we mean appealing to a

broader range of Christians, if we

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mean different levels of maturity

or single versus married, then I

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think all the advice is the same.

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Right.

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Sometimes when we.

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Say, appealing to a broader audience.

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We bristle a little bit and say,

well, let's not water things

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down, or something like that.

577

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But let's just assume that we're just

talking about different levels of

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maturity and single versus married

or so I, I would say really move

579

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away from the emphasis on gender

roles and embrace gender differences.

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The characteristics

581

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style, what appeals to each gender.

582

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What programs do we do, we

provide things like that.

583

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So think about the characteristics and

not roles when you're designing things.

584

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Don't erase genders in the church.

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That's good.

586

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And by

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that I mean over feminize the

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environment or over

masculinize the environment.

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Either direction, either ditch,

you're erasing the other gender.

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If, I get a little passionate

sometimes about this, so smack me,

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Krista, if I,

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if you talk too much, if

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I get, if You're talking

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to

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the woman who

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talks

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too much, so I dunno if I

get a little, rambunctious

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here, but is the church

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feminine

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looking?

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Does

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it

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have all

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flowy tapestry and flowers everywhere and

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soft colors

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and

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singing

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love

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songs, songs, and

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these sweet rhythms and

melodies and, is that the only

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:

thing that's there?

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:

Right.

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:

right.

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Is there any evidence of

masculinity in the church?

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Is there an aura of duty and calling

and quest adventure of boldness of

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:

a rhythmic beat towards something?

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A looking for that heart pounding beat

that kind of awakens the desire for

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this

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magic quest,

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:

Mm.

621

:

Uh, uh, within

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God's purpose, made, works for us.

623

:

What

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are

625

:

they?

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:

there's no evidence of that

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:

whatsoever, I can see it when I walk

into a church and the guys are staring

628

:

nicely straight ahead and maybe

mouthing a few words or so and Right.

629

:

Hoping that the service is over soon.

630

:

yeah.

631

:

Right.

632

:

We don't want

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:

that.

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:

No.

635

:

Right.

636

:

What happens when we go to

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a a rock

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:

concert or something, we leave

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man,

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:

I wanna

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:

play

642

:

instruments.

643

:

I'll

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:

never learn.

645

:

I I want

646

:

to go drive

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:

really fast.

648

:

I want, I wanna personify something.

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:

We want church to be a part of

that awakening in a man's soul.

650

:

Okay.

651

:

That was my little soapbox, no, that's

652

:

really good.

653

:

good.

654

:

Other things

655

:

though, getting

656

:

back

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:

on track.

658

:

Honestly.

659

:

Preach

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:

deep

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:

theology.

662

:

Yeah.

663

:

Every Every

664

:

Sunday.

665

:

Yeah.

666

:

What do words mean?

667

:

What is the Greek, what is the Hebrew,

what is the cultural context of all that?

668

:

What are the apologetics

surrounding that, you know, words

669

:

like help mate help meet mm-hmm.

670

:

meekness, things like that.

671

:

Provide study for your leaders, but just

for everybody on what masculinity is.

672

:

Get in the weeds.

673

:

Get in the controversies of it.

674

:

Good.

675

:

We're finding this

676

:

information elsewhere

677

:

if we're not getting it from church.

678

:

Mm-hmm.

679

:

You know, What is the

theology behind this?

680

:

Do a better

681

:

job

682

:

than

683

:

I

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:

do of explaining all this.

685

:

. But also

686

:

allow men to be, men.

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:

Allow men to, be men

in their active pursuit

688

:

of

689

:

God.

690

:

So

691

:

I wanna clarify

692

:

a little bit what I just

693

:

said.

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:

Sometimes

695

:

and historically allowing men to be men

696

:

is

697

:

actually

698

:

kind

699

:

A

700

:

negative

701

:

statement,

702

:

right?

703

:

What were men,

704

:

you know, are they drinking?

705

:

Are they, Carousing?

706

:

Are they not spending

707

:

time with their

708

:

family?

709

:

That's

710

:

not what we mean by allow

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:

men to be men.

712

:

Allow

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:

men to be men within their pursuit, their

714

:

active

715

:

pursuit of what God has for them.

716

:

So what do I mean

717

:

by that?

718

:

Allow

719

:

the

720

:

rough to be

721

:

rough.

722

:

Right.

723

:

Allow the smart to be

724

:

smart.

725

:

Not that the two are dichotomous.

726

:

But you get the imagery there.

727

:

Promote

728

:

and expect knowledge,

729

:

strength and

730

:

relationships.

731

:

Promote and provide, doing

hard things from what we want.

732

:

We're going out and

finding hard things to do.

733

:

Yeah.

734

:

Or we're dying inside.

735

:

Right.

736

:

Essentially drive the pursuit

737

:

of

738

:

our mission,

739

:

whatever our mission

is in God's work within

740

:

our masculinity.

741

:

Uh,

742

:

That

743

:

being

744

:

active

745

:

side

746

:

by

747

:

side

748

:

strong minds.

749

:

Strong bodies

750

:

all that

751

:

stuff falling into that

752

:

masculine

753

:

category

754

:

within performing god's work.

755

:

Here's one that I hear.

756

:

Don't

757

:

tell guys that in order to be

a Christian, he can't shoot

758

:

a gun or can't be a black belt

759

:

and but

760

:

also don't force a guy to shoot a gun or

to be a black belt in Juujitsu in order

761

:

to be a Christian man in the church.

762

:

Okay.

763

:

Okay And maybe the last thing

764

:

I'm thinking of is

don't elevate passivity.

765

:

And sometimes we get that there's a

whole book on this, but sometimes we

766

:

get that from, we're trying to turn the

other cheek, we're trying to, we have a,

767

:

maybe a misunderstanding of meekness and

a misunderstanding of what peacemaking

768

:

actually means and things like that.

769

:

But what the result of that

often has been, at least as

770

:

I have seen is passive men.

771

:

And we can't

772

:

have

773

:

that.

774

:

' cause when we're

775

:

passive, we

776

:

don't

777

:

lead.

778

:

Yeah, that's really good.

779

:

Piggybacking off of that, I'm

thinking of how many churches

780

:

are a little more female led,

781

:

we might have male

leadership from the platform.

782

:

We might have male elders,

but women are doing

783

:

all

784

:

the legwork,

785

:

right?

786

:

Women are more present.

787

:

It really is

788

:

an

789

:

environment

790

:

that appeals to

791

:

women.

792

:

and yet

793

:

what

794

:

has the

795

:

church done to maybe contribute to that?

796

:

Is what I think I hear you saying.

797

:

What can the church do

798

:

to actually

799

:

help

800

:

change that trend where the entirety

of what's happening on a Sunday morning

801

:

motivates a man, encourages a man,

makes him feel like he belongs there and

802

:

he

803

:

doesn't have

804

:

to be just

805

:

dragged

806

:

along to his

807

:

wife's

808

:

activity

809

:

as a passive

810

:

observer.

811

:

Well, and historically, that's

812

:

what the case has been.

813

:

At some point 60 3% of attendees

in a church were female, right?

814

:

And along with that, females led

the decision of, we're gonna go

815

:

to

816

:

church.

817

:

We're, this is where we're gonna go.

818

:

Yeah.

819

:

Come on guys.

820

:

That shouldn't be the case.

821

:

But

822

:

we're

823

:

also, as

824

:

men, we don't really, I.

825

:

Seem to care what it looks like.

826

:

So women are on the decorating

committees, that's a woman's

827

:

job we say, and all that stuff.

828

:

But then we wonder what is it that we

don't feel alive when we go to church?

829

:

So is there some kind

of role for us there?

830

:

I don't want to be on a decorating

committee, but I also have an

831

:

opinion of what I see as well.

832

:

So

833

:

how

834

:

do

835

:

I

836

:

reconcile?

837

:

That's good.

838

:

Yeah.

839

:

Well,

840

:

to that point, it almost seems

841

:

like

842

:

maybe that's something

843

:

for

844

:

women to

845

:

consider then, are there ways

846

:

that we

847

:

are contributing to

848

:

the problem because

849

:

we're

850

:

maybe

851

:

operating

852

:

in those spaces where we

853

:

have

854

:

giftedness and we are

855

:

not

856

:

considering

857

:

the men, we're not

858

:

considering

859

:

our

860

:

husbands and

861

:

our

862

:

sons

863

:

while

864

:

we're

865

:

on

866

:

the

867

:

decorating committee.

868

:

Or

869

:

we are giving our

870

:

opinions about

871

:

what music should be sung

872

:

or

873

:

whatever.

874

:

Maybe

875

:

we are thinking a little bit

too narrow mindedly and even

876

:

a little bit self-centered

877

:

about how we're doing

878

:

that

879

:

Did I just hear a sigh of

disappointment that the episode is over?

880

:

I don't blame you, but don't worry.

881

:

You can get more wisdom

from Krista and Brian Eck

882

:

if you head to so that we.com,

883

:

they're local to the Chicago area, but

are absolutely willing to meet virtually

884

:

with anyone seeking freedom and hope.

885

:

And there's even another resource

I'd love to point out to you.

886

:

Krista created an anxiety e-course

entitled Anxiety Demystified,

887

:

and it helps you understand.

888

:

This very common issue from a biblical

perspective, whether you're struggling

889

:

yourself or guiding a child through

an anxious season, or perhaps you

890

:

just wanna be equipped to parent

emotions in a healthy way in your home.

891

:

This is certainly A fantastic tool

to have in your toolbox, and I would

892

:

highly suggest you seek it out.

893

:

You'll learn how anxiety affects

the mind, the body, the spirit,

894

:

and how the Lord intends for

you to work through all of that.

895

:

We hope to have you back next week.

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:

We have so much more coming this fall.

897

:

You'll hear encouragement from a mom

whose kiddo is now thriving after

898

:

some challenging years , and you'll

hear how we can have hope and even

899

:

the most challenging of circumstances.

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:

You'll also learn more from Kristen

Bryan on what spiritual leadership should

901

:

look like and how you can encourage

your husband to thrive in that role.

902

:

We're gonna keep it coming,

so we hope to have you back.

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:

You're always welcome.

904

:

Stephanie: we know you're busy, mama.

905

:

So we are truly grateful you joined us for

this episode of again, if you're looking

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:

for more information about building your

home on the foundation of Jesus Christ,

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:

head to www dot Entrusted Ministries

dot com to learn more about our study

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:

for moms Entrusted with a child's Heart.

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:

This scripture saturated study

has blessed families around the

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:

world, and we want it for you too.

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:

Before you go, I want to pray this

benediction over you from Second

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:

Thessalonians one 11 through 12.

913

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We're rooting for you to this end.

914

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We always pray for you that our God

may make you worthy of his calling

915

:

and fulfill every resolve for good.

916

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And every work of faith by his power

so that the name of our Lord Jesus

917

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may be glorified in you and you

and Him according to the grace of

918

:

our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

919

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Amen.

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:

Until we meet again.

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Stephanie has always delighted in God’s Word and in sharing it with others. Whether it is equipping mothers and leaders through Entrusted with a Child’s Heart, inspiring students when teaching at homeschool co-ops or children’s ministry, or homeschooling her own children, Stephanie’s life mission is to encourage others to follow faithfully and joyfully after Jesus—especially if they hold her favorite job title: mom.

Betsy Corning wrote Entrusted with a Child’s Heart in 1999 in response to the needs she saw in families as she and David counseled young parents just a few years behind them. Entrusted has been taught in hundreds of churches nationwide, been translated into several foreign languages, and has made its way around the world. More recently, Betsy received her Masters in Biblical Studies from The Master’s University and is developing a new Bible Study program called Get the Word Out. Her passion for God’s Word, discipleship, and teaching biblical principles as they apply to family life has remained strong to this day. One of the greatest blessings in Betsy’s life are her three grown children, their spouses, and ten grandchildren that keep her constantly in touch with every age and stage.

Jen Freckman Is an incredible wealth of wisdom. She will tell you a natural remedy for just about anything! She is also a voracious reader and she is just overflowing with quotes and guidance that she's encountered through reading and being faithful. She delights in her children and is a devoted mother. She is also an amazingly creative problem solver! Her solutions to manage her home and guide her children are inspiring.

Emily Deyo is such a treasure. She is an incredible encourager and servant-hearted woman. When she has the mic in front of her, so much value comes out! She is a wordsmith and her heart consistently beats for how she can encourage and serve others. She is a truly loving and attentive mother.

Join Betsy, Emily, Jen, and Stephanie as they share the wisdom only Scripture and on-the-job training can provide to help untangle the joyful calling of motherhood.