What If It's About More Than the Baby? Living Out God's Heart for Adoption: Part 1 (+ Natural Solutions for Common Symptoms)
As Christians we are called to love sacrificially and without limit. Listen to the beginning of a radical testimony in which Jen and her husband Eric love without a guarantee of a return, obediently following God's prompting. Jen also shares some of her best natural solutions to help families struggling with symptoms of discomfort or sickness.
Transcript
They're the joyful agains our children shout on the swings, the
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:exhausting agains of cooking and laundry,
and the difficult agains of discipline.
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:So much of what we do
as mothers is on repeat.
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:So what if we woke up with clarity,
knowing which agains we were called
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:to, and went to bed believing we
are faithful in what matters most?
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:We believe God's word is
the key to untangle from the
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:confusion and overwhelm we feel.
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:Let's look up together to embrace a
motherhood full of freedom and joy.
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:Thanks for joining us for this
episode of again, brought to
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:you by interested ministries.
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:I'm your host, Stephanie Hickox.
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:And in today's episode, I'm joined
by Jen Frackman, as she shares an
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:incredible testimony in which the
sovereignty of God is undeniable.
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:And the love of Jen and Eric is displayed.
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:In a most uncommon way.
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:As they were longing for a
child to bring into their home.
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:They chose to love women
in difficult situations.
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:After I heard dental this story, the
first time I pulled her aside and said,
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:I want to be like you, when I grow up.
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:Jen is the type of person
that takes every blessing.
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:The Lord gives her.
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:And multiplies it
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:she serves radically and
lovingly and tirelessly.
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:And it's very evident in this testimony.
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:We hope that you had a chance
to listen to our episodes.
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:I'm the sanctity of life.
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:The last two weeks.
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:And these episodes will continue
to focus on the dignity that
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:God has given each human being.
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:And this unique testimony where the child
matters so much, but the mother does too.
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:We hope it inspires you to love radically.
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:And to have
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:I just to see how you
can serve our savior.
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:Where he has placed you.
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:As promised Jen kicks off
this episode with some really
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:helpful natural solutions.
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:Some I had definitely heard of and
used before and some are new to me.
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:Although we hope everyone's staying
healthy in your house we know
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:that winter sickness is so common.
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:So I hope you and your kiddos find some
relief and some help through these tips.
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:Steph: All right, Jen, in our homeschool
community, you are known as Nurse
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:Freckman or Nurse Jen to some of us, and
even our kids know when we have questions
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:about what to do that you will have.
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:A great solution.
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:And what I love is so often it's
something that I already have in
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:my home or something, that I feel
really great about giving my kids.
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:So, I would really love it if you could
guide us through a couple symptoms
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:and say when my child starts to feel
this, this is what I turn to first.
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:Let's start with ear pain.
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:I think that's such a tricky one
because we can't see it, right?
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:Jen: Yes.
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:Steph: I've been very tempted to buy an
otoscope or something just so I can see.
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:They're telling me it hurts, but it
could be so many things or even when
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:they were little, my kids, I would
go to the doctor and they'd say, oh,
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:they have an ear infection, but my
kids would say their ears didn't hurt.
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:I think it's such an elusive one, so,
if one of your kids comes to you and
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:says their ear hurts, what do you do?
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:Oh,
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:Jen: Dr.
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:Mom.
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:You can get them on Amazon.
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:I think they're like 15.
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:And I would look, even when
my littles were very little, I
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:would just look in their ear.
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:a number of different times throughout
a day or the week, just to get to know
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:what their ears look like normally.
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:And then as their ears started to have
ear infections or ear pain, I would
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:know what looks differently for them.
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:And so, you can tell, I'm not a doctor,
so none of this is medical advice, but
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:Steph: we have to have
the caveats, don't we?
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:Jen: Exactly.
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:But you can tell, if there's
redness or just different things.
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:So I would, I would look in their
ear with one of those scopes as well.
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:And then I would also depending
on what it was you can get little.
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:Eardrops of moulin oil.
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:I believe that's how you pronounce it.
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:And garlic oil, warm garlic oil.
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:I've even made my own where I just crush
up some garlic and let it very, very
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:slowly simmer on the stove top to get
it warm and then let it cool until I can
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:put it on my wrist and it's not at all.
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:Warm or too hot.
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:And then I would just
drop that in their ear.
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:Sometimes I'll do a warm salt sock where
I take like really coarse Himalayan
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:salt and I put it in a clean sock.
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:No, the most important part
is the clean sock part.
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:And then I'll take it and either put it
in the warming tray or on the stove top
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:and just heat it up a little bit and
get it warm and put that on their ear.
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:And that soothes it very quickly and
well, and just helps blood flow go to
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:that area because of the heat, drawing
the heat there increases blood flow.
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:Depending on if they have a cold,
then I, might do a neti pot for
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:them to help them get their sinuses
so that that gets out of their.
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:Nasal passage.
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:Also, I would lift the back of their
ear there's a bone right behind
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:your ear a large circular bone.
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:And I would rub that and then press
down as I rubbed and go down their
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:neck, and that would just help.
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:drain, whatever is in there.
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:And it would usually feel good to them.
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:So those, those are the things
we do for like ear pain.
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:Steph: I still remember a friend
saying, yep, I walked into Jen's house
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:and she had socks in a frying pan,
and I was like, ooh, tell me more.
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:Jen: yes,
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:Steph: So yep, so I've tried
it and it works amazingly.
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:I've used Epsom salt usually but it,
it definitely does have to be coarse.
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:You're right.
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:Otherwise, it's a mess.
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:And you have to watch it to make
sure you don't cook too long.
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:Jen: Yep.
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:Steph: and the garlic oil
drops are really helpful.
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:I've done mixing melaleuca with lavender
and coconut oil and just rubbing
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:that around the outside of the ear.
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:And that's really helpful too
and, something I already have.
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:Jen: Yes.
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:Steph: I love that you studied your
children's ears, and they're healthy and
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:that's so wise to get a baseline, right?
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:Jen: it helps so much because, and
everybody's ear looks differently.
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:Like I didn't, I had never looked
into an ear before, so I didn't know.
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:And then I was like, Oh,
this is your normal ear.
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:Okay.
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:And then just recently Josiah had a really
bad ear infection and I could see Oh
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:my goodness, this is, this is inflamed.
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:I can see why you're in pain.
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:And yeah, it was pretty cool to see.
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:The inflammation go down and to see the
things that we were doing helping and
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:we never had to take them in for it.
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:So that was nice.
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:Steph: that's great.
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:And most ear infections are caused
by a virus and not a bacteria, right?
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:Even though they're commonly treated
with antibiotics, that's not going
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:to kill what's causing it usually.
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:Jen: Yep.
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:Steph: so it's helpful to have something
that will provide relief as you're
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:waiting for those germs to be defeated.
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:Jen: Yeah.
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:Steph: What about if one of your
children has a bruise or a bump or
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:hurts themselves in some sort of injury?
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:Jen: Yeah.
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:Our favorite is Arnica gel and they have
topical cream that you can put on or even
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:when that's it dries really quickly cause
it has like alcohol in it or something.
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:So we just rub that on and that really
does help a lot that's my favorite.
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:You can also get little borion tablets
of arnica that they can take internally.
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:They're like little tiny itty
bitty little circle balls that
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:they just put under their tongue
and that goes right into their
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:bloodstream and , that helps as well.
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:But topically, I don't
know if it's what it is.
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:It just helps them.
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:I don't know how it works.
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:I just know it does.
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:Steph: The palettes, it's so funny because
some of the Latin names sound like,
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:this sounds like hocus pocus, argentum
natricum, and you're like, I feel like
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:you're saying I'm tricking myself, but.
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:I, I've taken them myself even, for
like dental pain or something like
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:that and you're like, well, even if
it's a placebo, it's working, like
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:I feel better, so I'm okay with it.
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:Sore throats are quite
common this time of year.
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:What is your remedy for that?
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:Jen: I love Manuka honey.
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:Really good quality Manuka
honey lemon essential oil.
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:If you just take it and put it in
right back wherever that soreness
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:is, there is something to that that
just quickly can take that away.
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:Throat coat tea is one
of my favorite teas.
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:I, I actually like the flavor of it.
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:Some people.
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:It's not their favorite, but I enjoy it.
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:That really does help a lot.
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:And B propolis spray is
my ultimate favorite.
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:We will spray that and just get it back
as far back in the throat as you can.
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:And those typically will
soothe and help whatever that
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:irritable sore throat thing is.
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:If I feel it is strep, then I take
it a little bit more seriously and
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:I'll either go get it checked to see
if it is strep and then I know what
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:to do with different homeopathic
or different natural antibiotics,
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:like oregano or garlic oil or.
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:Colloidal silver, whatever
it is that we want to do.
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:But I don't like to mess
around with straps, so.
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:I will get them tested for that usually.
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:Steph: Sure.
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:Great.
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:we've tried bee pollen, but I've
never tried the bee propolis spray.
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:That's interesting.
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:Jen: Yeah.
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:It's super helpful.
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:That's actually one of my favorite sprays.
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:Steph: It's exciting to try these things.
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:You don't want your kids to get sick,
but you, you want to see this stuff work,
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:Jen: yes.
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:Yes.
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:Steph: Okay, and what about stomach aches?
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:Okay.
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:Jen: that's huge because.
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:Whatever it is their body's having a hard
time digesting, it will help assist their
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:body and into digesting whatever that is.
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:Digestive enzymes help
activated charcoal, that helps.
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:You can even take a capsule of that and
open it up and put it in grape juice
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:and shake it up and have them drink it.
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:They don't need a lot.
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:A little goes a long way.
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:Magnesium, typically, if they're,
constipated, then I will give them
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:magnesium, give them a magnesium bath.
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:Magnesium is best absorbed transdermally,
so having lotion or a bath or rubbing
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:lotion on their tummy, that will help as
well but also taking magnesium, whether
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:it's a drink or a pill, something like
that, to get some of that moving for them.
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:We also love castor oil packs.
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:Anytime they have a tummy ache and
it just comes out of nowhere and I
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:don't really know what to do, I'll put
castor oil on organic flannel cotton
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:and then I tie it around with a,
just a organic bow thing that I have.
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:It's like a ribbon and we'll put a heating
pad over top of it for a little bit and
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:let that sit on their tummy for a while.
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:And most often that
will take the pain away.
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:Steph: Wow.
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:Castor oil also works best transdermally
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:Jen: Yeah.
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:Yeah, I have only used it on
topically, so I haven't taken it.
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:I, I'm sure that there's things you can
do, but I haven't researched that as
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:much, but topically it will increase blood
flow and it will reduce inflammation.
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:And so it takes pain away and
it does work relatively quickly.
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:Even for things like tummy aches,
headaches Olivia had a migraine this
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:afternoon and I put Some on her forehead
and the heating pad on her forehead.
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:And she said, mom, it feels so much
better, but it didn't take it away
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:completely, but it did reduce the pain.
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:Steph: That's excellent.
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:Thank you, this is so helpful.
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:And like I said, it always
brings me such peace to have
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:things in my home that I can do.
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:Historically, my kids always
get sick 10pm on Friday night
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:Jen: Yes.
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:Steph: and you're like, the
doctor's office isn't open!
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:And then you think, do I really
want to take my little child into
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:an ER or an urgent care so, having
things we can do at home is so nice.
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:Jen: Yeah.
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:Steph: And then often it's resolved
by Monday morning anyway, and then
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:Jen: Yes.
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:I know.
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:Children do not get sick 9
to 5 Monday through Friday.
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:It just doesn't work.
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:It's like any off hour is
when they're going to get it.
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:Steph: Yeah, for sure well, thank you
so much super helpful then we'll come
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:back to you for more tips on just what
you use naturally to clean your house
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:and Thieves Spray and everything, and so
we want to hear about all those things.
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:but I'm very excited for you to be able to
share this beautiful, amazing God story of
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:the adoption of your daughter, literally,
the first time I heard it, you told
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:it at a mom's night for our homeschool
community that night went late, we talked
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:really late and I think I got home at 1.
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:30 in the morning and the
whole drive home, I was just
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:like, Lord, that is amazing.
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:And I had goosebumps as you were
telling it and I wanted to wake my
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:husband up and tell him the story.
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:It was just so hard to keep it in.
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:You have to hear what God did.
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:When he was like, how was it?
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:And I was like, I have
to tell you, it's okay.
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:If I have to tell you again in the
morning, but isn't this amazing?
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:Jen: I love that.
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:Yeah.
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:Steph: sovereignty is undeniable in this.
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:And also as I've seen
you parent your daughter,
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:your thoughtfulness.
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:And even the language
that you use with her.
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:I think that'll be so helpful for other
moms, if they're caring for foster
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:children, or if they have adopted
children, or even thoughtfulness for
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:any child to think about what experiences
have you gone through, and how can I
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:parent you how you need to be parented,
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:very excited for you to
share all of this wisdom
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:So let's dive in.
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:Tell us all about the story of how
your daughter came into your family.
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:Jen: I love it.
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:Okay.
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:So Eric and I, we wanted to have children
early on in our marriage and we got
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:pregnant and quickly had a miscarriage,
I think at 10 weeks and I was devastated.
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:It was shocking to me.
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:I did not even have that on my radar.
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:I had had two sisters who
had never had that before.
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:I didn't really know very many women
who had had a miscarriage before.
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:And so it just blindsided me
and I just was so hurt by that.
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:And so, just saddened
and grieved through that.
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:But also just felt the
Lord saying it'll be okay.
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:But just trust me.
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:So, that happened and then.
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:We actively tried to get pregnant
and it took us another three
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:years before we conceived Olivia.
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:And that three years was
a very hard trying time.
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:It was it was very hard.
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:Every single month it was
a constant no, no, no, no.
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:You're not pregnant, not pregnant.
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:I just remember, getting so excited
thinking like anytime I would
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:feel a little bit nauseous, I'd be
like, Oh, maybe I'm pregnant again.
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:And well, no, I'm not
actually, it's just hormones.
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:And so I had been seeing a mentor
early on in our marriage, Eric
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:and I both were mentored by older.
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:Transcribed Men and women, and my mentor
was an absolutely amazing godly woman
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:who I just love so much and I owe so
much of my walk with the Lord to her
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:because of where and how she steered
my heart and my pain through that.
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:And she would constantly bring me back
to that Jesus is the gift, that pregnancy
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:is not the gift you're looking for.
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:Nothing else is the gift except Jesus.
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:You, if you have him, you have
enough and you need to be okay
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:having just him and not having
that thing that you want so badly.
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:Once you're content, not that God
would do it right when I'm content,
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:not that, but once you're content,
you'll understand how God is enough.
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:And you're not content right now.
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:So you need to keep praying on this.
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:And so she was pretty adamant with
me that I needed to just continue
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:to lay this before the Lord.
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:And I'm so thankful because
there is so much hurt in that.
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:It's a constant letdown every single month
and getting your hopes up to be just.
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:Defeated.
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:And I just think of that verse that says
hope deferred makes the heart grow sick.
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:And that's what we were going through.
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:So, we decided at the time that
we didn't want to focus on us.
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:We wanted to get busy serving the Lord.
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:And so we just prayed about it and
said, Lord, what would you have for us?
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:While we wait for you to Lord willing
answer our prayer, what do we do
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:to make ourselves not be focused
on just our pain and ourselves?
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:And what can we do to serve you?
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:Excuse me.
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:So we signed up with Safe
Families for Children.
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:It's through Lydia Home in Chicago here.
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:And I remember the very first meeting
we sat through, I was bawling my
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:eyes out and I felt like the angels
in heaven were like, Oh this is
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:why, this is why you were born.
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:Like you need to do this program.
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:And I handed in my
paperwork the next morning.
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:I literally like All the paperwork they
gave me, I filled it out that night.
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:The next morning, I faxed it over.
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:This was a while ago
when faxing was normal.
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:And within three days, we had our
first safe family son in our home.
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:And so that was, it's like very
short term, like months ish foster
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:care, but it's before kids would
go into the foster care system, but
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:that's just the way that people would
understand it is by saying foster care.
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:So we would take on kids and it
served our hearts for that longing to
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:have a baby or a child in our home.
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:It served the child and the.
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:The birth mom, because we got to
understand how we could care for this
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:child who wasn't our own and who didn't
have the parenting styles that we were
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:going to have, or it didn't have the
background that we were raised with.
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:And so we learned.
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:So much through that.
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:It was invaluable.
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:It really felt like we started to
understand this like underground
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:world of the foster care system
that we didn't know existed.
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:We didn't, we were not made privy to
much of how the foster care system
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:works and how how to handle birth
moms, how to handle Kids who have gone
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:through trauma and some even who were
drug addicted and just, it was a deep
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:dive into caring for little ones and
we poured our hearts out into that.
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:And I will never forget there was one
time that we had a, a son or a foster
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:son in our home and the mom was going
to come and do a meeting and She was
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:going to have a home visit with him and
it was Easter Sunday morning and She
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:was going to come visit church with us.
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:And she said that that
sounded like so much fun.
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:She wanted to join us.
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:So we were going to meet her at church
and we were waiting and waiting.
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:And finally I went out, stepped outside
and called her and said, what's going on?
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:And she's Oh, I'm, I'm really sorry.
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:I can't come this morning.
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:I actually just got an
abortion, so I won't be there.
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:And I started just.
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:Crying.
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:I just, I was like,
wait, what you serious?
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:And she was like, yeah.
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:And I was like, well, how are you feeling?
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:And she's I'm fine.
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:I just, I just don't feel it coming.
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:And I was like, okay.
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:So we hung up and I just wept.
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:I wept and I just felt
God, what are you doing?
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:Like of all the people that we could
have in our home and all of the birth
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:moms that we could have, you gave us
one who just aborted their baby when.
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:We are struggling to get pregnant,
like that just felt so cruel
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:to me and it was, it was hard.
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:It was very hard.
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:And I just remember being like, Oh my
goodness, how do we, how do we help
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:these moms before they get to that point?
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:Steph: Right.
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:Jen: It was really hard.
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:So we decided that we were just
going to continue to trust the Lord.
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:And we were going to take in as many
kids as we could and we were going to
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:love them well and not only love them
well, but love the moms well, I felt
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:very convicted that one of the things
I loved about this program is we got to
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:have relationships with the birth moms
and we got to mentor them as much as we
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:could and, and as much as they would allow
some moms just, And so we would just,
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:tell them we're praying for them and let
me know how we can serve you in any way.
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:And they, they wouldn't accept
any of it and that's okay.
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:But the ones that wanted it, they,
they soaked it up and I didn't know
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:that the Lord was preparing us so
well for dealing with birth moms
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:in the future, being an adoptive.
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:Parent.
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:But God was using all of that.
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:He was using every ounce of that
and training us and giving us wisdom
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:and knowledge that we would never
have been able to have apart from
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:serving through Safe Families.
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:And just being able to love those
moms, see them with dignity and honor.
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:And I don't think very many people
will look at them that way because
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:their child's in the system and
so they have marks against them.
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:But There was one birth mom that we were
helping who was in a domestic violence
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:situation and we tried to help her get
a home and so we had to get her out
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:of the domestic violence situation.
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:It was like midnight and we went down
to the inner city and I just remember
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:being like, don't stop at any stoplight.
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:Just run them all.
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:Let's get there and get out.
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:Don't stop.
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:It was so scary.
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:And went into this.
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:And we got her out and we brought
her all the way out to Elgin, which
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:is like a, probably an hour and 10
minute drive from where she was.
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:And we dropped her off at a like
a domestic violence shelter there.
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:And we gave her our number and
we were like, we are with you.
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:We will help you, but we needed
to get you in a safe place.
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:And so we took her kids home
with us and she stayed at the
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:shelter and all that to say.
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:For months and months, we did everything
we could in our power to help her get a
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:job, to get a home, to get situated, to
get housing and, and just so much work.
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:And so, so often I found myself
looking back being like, when I
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:would see a homeless person on
the street and saying they were.
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:Looking for a job or looking for money.
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:I'd be like, just, go
to, go to McDonald's.
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:There's, there's work,
there's work out there.
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:You just need to go get it.
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:And then we helped this mom
who needed to get a job.
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need your number to call you.
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a domestic violence shelter.
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number on the application, and
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quick call the shelter, get her on
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that they didn't have to know that she
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:It was, but it's things like
that you don't think about.
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to be judgmental of the mom, like,
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away or whatever it is?
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judgmental and we have no clue.
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us and peeling back the judgmental layers
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know how hard that was and how many
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:Trying to help her get
all these things done.
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:And she had a support system because
we love the Lord and we had, we had a
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:support system of family that helped
and friends that helped and the church.
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:There was so many people that helped
this woman get along and get out.
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:And And it worked and she
does, she's, she did wonderful.
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:She did great, but it took that much work.
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the Lord was working in us during that.
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years to prune us and to, to get us ready.
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:Steph: And to be a blessing to so
many it's really beautiful how
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:selflessly you used your time.
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:Jen: Thanks.
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:Steph: already made me cry once.
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:Jen: So fast forward, we did get
pregnant with Olivia and that was
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:The Lord just answered
our prayers so, so well.
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:And I do remember getting to the
point where I said to my mentor,
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:if God allows us to get pregnant,
it is because God is so good to us.
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:If God doesn't allow us to be pregnant,
it is because God is so good to us.
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:And it was within a month and I was
pregnant and, and I don't think that,
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:I don't think I could will myself
there okay, now I'm good to see this.
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:Like the Lord had to work
me into the point of that.
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:I'm so grateful he did.
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:So then we had two other babies and still
felt that our home was not complete.
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:Our, our life was not complete.
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:We knew that we had wanted to adopt.
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just figured, well, we know that there's
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:a need out there because we do say
families and, and we've seen the desire
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:and the need for adoptive families.
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:So we'll just adapt through.
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:Something like that, maybe through
the foster care system or something.
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:And I had had two sisters
who had adopted as well.
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:I have one niece from India one
from, I don't know why I'm getting
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:choked up talking about them.
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:One niece from India, one from
Guatemala one from Columbia and, I
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:just watched my sisters go through
that adoption process and how much they
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:loved those children, even though they had
never met them and how their hearts ached
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:to be with them, even though they had
never met them and just seeing, a picture
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:and then waiting and going and meeting
them and then having to wait a month,
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:two months, a year to get them back.
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to domestically adapt and.
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:Having gone through the foster care system
and the safe families, we felt very called
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:to adopt with an open adoption where we
could know the mom as best as we could.
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:And so we decided that that's what
we were going to do, that we were
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:going to adopt domestically, even
though that scared us, the US laws
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:scared us the cost of it is not great.
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:There were a lot of things
that it was like, well.
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:I don't know how this is going to go, and
I don't know how long we're going to have
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middle of the night and I had a
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gave to me to send out postcards.
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through sending postcards.
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:And I did not know exactly how
that was going to work or how my
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:And I was like, all right, babe, I think I
have an idea as to how we can find a baby.
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:And he was like, what?
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:And I said, I think we're supposed to send
a postcard with our name and our family
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where a woman in need would be.
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where a woman in need would be.
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:I did inner city laundromats.
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:I did domestic violence
shelters in the inner city.
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:I did high school guidance counselors.
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:I sent them there anywhere
that I could think of.
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:I had some in my purse.
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:I had some anywhere that we would
go where there might be a woman.
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our family and on the back I said, Hey,
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:we're looking to adopt and we would love
to have a preborn to two year old little
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:We would love to Know the birth mom as
and mentor her as much as she's wanting
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:to and to be a part of our family as Best
as we can do that And so if you know a
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:woman in need give her our information
and give her this postcard and she can
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:contact us so I had 500 printed and I
sent out a batch of I believe it was 50
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we're mailing them and addressing them.
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dear friends said, there's a maternity
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:home that opened up in downtown
Chicago that you should send it to.
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:I didn't know that they had those.
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:That sounds amazing.
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:So I found the number and I.
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:The address and I sent one
to this maternity home.
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:Well, literally from Day one, when
I sent the first postcard, 12 days
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:later, I've got a first phone call
and I know, I know it was nuts.
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:She said, we just got your postcard
and we've never done this before.
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:We don't usually do this.
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:But we have a birth mom who
came in and our home is filled.
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:We have too many moms and we have
to turn her away and I cannot
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:And she goes, ironically, this morning
in the mail, I got your postcard
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:and she is coming this afternoon.
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:And I didn't know what
I was going to tell her.
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:And I'm calling you to see if I
may give her your information.
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:And I was like yeah,
that's the reason I get
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:Steph: that
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:Jen: sent those.
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:So I said, yes, please.
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:I would love for you to do that.
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believe this because I know she
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:is pregnant with a little girl.
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:She, I just, I can't believe that
the Lord is working this out and
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:I, I said, yes, please send it.
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:And she goes, would you do me a favor?
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:Will you keep me in the loop
as to what happens with this?
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:And even if it's not this, would you
just let me know what happens with you?
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:And, and how, and I
said, yeah, absolutely.
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:So fast forward the next day I got
a phone call and It was, would you
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:believe, Easter Sunday morning.
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:And I just am like, Oh Lord, you
are so, you redeem everything.
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:And years prior on Easter Sunday
morning, I got a horrible phone call.
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:And then this Easter Sunday
morning, I got the best phone call.
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:And it was from a birth mom who, I was
looking to place her baby in adoption,
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:but wanted to meet with us first.
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:All right, I'm sorry, but
I'm going to have to stop us.
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:We've got a lot more story to tell.
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:So please come back next week
and the next to hear the rest
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:of this incredible testimony
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:we hope that you are really
blessed by the natural solutions.
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:Jen shared at the
beginning of the episode.
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:And we pray that you have the eyes to see.
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:And the heart to serve wherever
the Lord calls you today.
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:He is with you mama.
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:And just a reminder, if you've
been blessed by the podcast, please
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:head over and give us a review.
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:This is so helpful to us because
then the platform you're listening
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:on is more likely to recommend this
podcast to other moms that are seeking
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:to serve the Lord in
their homes and beyond.
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:Steph: We know you're busy, Mama,
so we are truly grateful you joined
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:us for this episode of Again.
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:foundation of Jesus Christ, head to www.
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:EntrustedMinistries.
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:This scripture saturated study
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:world, and we want it for you, too.
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:Before you go, I want to pray
this benediction over you
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:from 2 Thessalonians 1, 11 12.
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:We're rooting for you.
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:To this end, we always pray for you,
that our God may make you worthy of His
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:calling, and may fulfill every resolve
for good, and every work of faith by
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:His power, so that the name of our Lord
Jesus may be glorified in you, and you in
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:Him, according to the grace of our God.
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:And the Lord Jesus Christ.
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:Amen.
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:Until we meet again.